Rehashing BJ Clinton and Monica - seriously?

Question

How did the Clinton spin machine get it to be all about sex instead of lying under oath just like Libby did?

This is really intriguing as a right wing conspiracy member looking at these left wing answers. We have "move on" and forget about it answers and total denial answers. For reference the person who said he should not have been in the position to have to answer that question - it was not about White Water it was about the sexual harrassment claim that was privately brought forward against him - not White Water at all. The independent counsel was not informed of it until after he lied.

Answer 1

You can see how well they are brainwashed on the subject. Apparently the question reads differently to some than to others. It is a great spin and thats all I hear out of anybody that has anything to do with those people. It's their tactic, sublimation I think it's called, getting someone to refer to something else while thinking of another thing. It's probably taught in some ethics class.

Answer 2

because the Clinton spin machine is the entirety of the media in the USA.

Most people just have a guy, or a group of pundits, but the Clintons have everyone from CNN to MSNBC spinning for them.

It's like a tour de france team, all that spinning.

Answer 3

Read Michael Isikoff's book Uncovering Clinton and also Dick Morris Because He Could. It's all in there.

Basically, thanks to a complicit liberal media, the Clinton lie (sorry, 'spin') machine put out a bunch on misinformation, falsely claimed it was about private sex not felony law breaking by the chief law enforcement officer of the land (the President), used every delay and stall tactic possible, and then, as you can see below, had the audicity to claim it took a long time and cost a lot of money.

Uh, that was because the Clintons were lying and stalling - that's why it took so long.

Also, any investigation that results in an impeachment would be cheap at 100 times the cost. Does anyone complain about how much was spent investigating Nixon?

No, because we Republicans don't make such ridiculous arguments.

Truth Keeper is of course wrong - Clinton perjured himself in the Paul Jones suit depo, not in a Whitewater investigation, so it was completely material to that case. Judge found Clinton in contempt, fined him, and referred to Arkansas bar for disbarment. Bush should have had Clinton tried for perjury, but he wanted to unite - in return, Dems incl Clinton have spit on him.

Answer 4

They both lied under oath, but Clinton's lie was about his personal business that should have not been asked.

Libby's lie effectively stopped the investigation of a crime - the reveal of a CIA cover identity and the identities of others that were in communication or had communicated with that uncovered CIA agent - at their risk.

I know these seem equal to you "Clinton is to blame for everything forever" - but they aren't. The "they both lied under oath" claim is just finding a similar attribute and pretending it is all that matters. It isn't.

Answer 5

I am a Republican and served in the Military under Both Bush and Clinton, I don't hate Clinton, he was my president and you have to respect that, I disagreed with his polices and his morality,but I never wished i'll will towards him or harm, but I do not think he is a morole person at all


Here's his rap sheet,

William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate, Law Licensed ripped away by the Supreme court, a first for a U.S. President

Terror attacks on Bill's watch
93 WTC
96 Khobar Towers 19 Airman dead 300 wounded
98 2 U.S. Embassy Bombings 5,000 wounded
98 Refused to take Bin Laden into custody
99 Refused to take Bin Laden into custody
2000 U.S.S. Cole Bombing
2001 9-11 took 6 YEARS TO PLAN

Also Clinton benifited from the DOT COM TECH STOCK BOOM that even Jimmy Carter couldn't have screwed up,

Answer 6

Do you really think the public would have cared about the story, and that the republicans would have pushed for impeachment, if it didn't involve sex. Sure, Clinton lied under oath. But what he lied about was sex. That's what the right used as a hook to try and get the public on their side.

Answer 7

Clinton was acquitted - Libby wasn't. That is the main difference!
Other than that perhaps it is Libby deliberately interfered with an ongoing investigation.
Much as the Republican congress seem to be obsessed with Clinton's sex life - it was not the subject under investigation at the time.

Answer 8

Somehow Clinton managed to convince the grand jury that getting a BJ wasn't sex. That's probably the real crime.

Answer 9

He should not have ever been in a position to lie under oath about his sex life. There is a big difference between the two and any rational person can see that. It was a GOP led witch hunt to destroy the man. You can thank the Republican controlled Congress at that time for 9-11.

Answer 10

not sure but it seems it has a lot to do with liberals forgetting..i havent, however, and vote facts and results...
no more clintons in 08

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court