2007-09-05 13:22:59 · 12 answers · asked by Craig M 4 in Sports ➔ Baseball
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2007-09-05 13:25:56 · answer #1 · answered by Sharon S 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I was as thrilled as anyone when Morris won the WS with the Twins, but no. He does not belong.
His career ERA is 5% better than league average; his BEST season is a third better. Guys like Maddux, Pedro, Clemens had ERAs ½ of the league average.
There are 22 players with 5 or more rings not in the Hall. Are you going to put Frank Crosetti in because he had 7 rings and got hit by pitches a lot?
Wins are extremely team dependent. Sure, a good pitcher will win more often than a bad pitcher if everything else is equal. But lots of pitchers with the clubs he was on would have done as well or better.
He never lead the league in ERA, WHIP, strike-outs to walks...he lead once in strikeouts. he never even lead in winning percentage when he was on the teams with the best winning percentage themselves.
I just don’t think you would put him on your starting staff for the team of his time.
And according to tests like Black Ink, Hall of Fame Standards, etc., he is about the 20th to 35th best pitcher (who is eligible) not yet in the Hall. That’s a fine career, one I would love to have.
But he is not a Hall of Famer under any reasonable and logical standards based on evidence and not just feelings.
2007-09-06 03:47:08 · answer #2 · answered by Bucky 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. With a 254-186 record and a 3.90 lifetime ERA it's not enough to get him in. Also his K to BB radio is not that impressive. It's less than 2 to 1 and that's nothing to write home about. He is in the top 20 in all time walks and top 25 in all time earn runs allowed. No way he's a hall of famer!
2007-09-07 11:51:10 · answer #3 · answered by The Mick 7 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Technically, no.
Is he worthy? Ah, not really. Someone has to be The Best Pitcher Not In The Hall, and when Blyleven gets his long overdue plaque, Morris will be the perfect heir to the title. He never had any truly great seasons -- good to very good for an extended period is valuable, but without some genuine standout seasons he really doesn't reach Hall measure. Close, but no.
2007-09-05 21:06:02 · answer #4 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Apparently not. I always thought he belonged because he was the winningest pitcher of the 80s, I think and he won WS on three diff teams and that 11 inning game 7 shutout was one of the greatest playoff performances of all times in any sport.
But what kills him is that he had a higher ERA than the rest of his team in most of his seasons. It seems like it must be some odd quirck that shouldn't be held against him. How can he give up more runs than the rest of his staff, year after year, but win more games than anyone else. Just kind of odd but I think the voters hold that against him.
2007-09-05 22:06:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Until you asked that question, I had forgotten about Jack Morris. I imagine that happened to the Veterans' Committee, too!
He was an excellent pitcher, but not sure he'll ever get inducted.
2007-09-05 21:00:19 · answer #6 · answered by pricehillsaint 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
over 200 wins. more wins than anyone in the 1980's. he won world series on 3 different teams and pitched a no hitter. it's so hard for a pitcher to get in, and besides bert, he's the best pitcher that's not in.
2007-09-05 23:24:45 · answer #7 · answered by joe 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
without looking at the stats I would think that yes he is.
World Series team in '84 Tigers and wasn't with the Twins and Bluejays during their runs to?
A few no hitters and a bunch of wins!
2007-09-05 20:52:12 · answer #8 · answered by JimBob 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I am sorry to say this - No.
His E.R.A. is way too high, 3.90?
To be in the hall of fame I think you should have a E.R.A. less then 3.65.
2007-09-05 21:28:01 · answer #9 · answered by #1 New York Yankees Fan 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am not sure. Perhaps he should be in. What I do know is that the Detroit Tigers should retire his number.
2007-09-05 22:30:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋