English Deutsch Français Italiano Español Português 繁體中文 Bahasa Indonesia Tiếng Việt ภาษาไทย
All categories

Skidoo is sometimes thought to derive from the slang word, skeddaddle- to run away. The "23" has been associated with 23rd street in New York City.

2007-09-05 12:44:47 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Education & Reference Words & Wordplay

5 answers

Wikipedia has a long article about the phrase, and the source of the phrase is debatable.

2007-09-05 12:51:50 · answer #1 · answered by just_the_facts_ma'am 6 · 0 0

There are several stories suggesting the origin of the phrase, none that have been universally accepted. Cartoonist "TAD" (Thomas A. Dorgan) is credited by The New York Times in his obituary as "First to say 'Twenty-three, Skidoo.'"[2] One source says that baseball player Mike Donlin and comedian Tom Lewis created the expression as part of their vaudeville act.[3]

Another source of the term has been rumored to come from the area around the Flatiron Building on 23rd street in NYC. Apparently, winds would swirl around the building and in the roaring 20's groups of men would gather to watch women walk by with their skirts being blown up by the winds. The police would then ask the men to break-it-up and leave... hence the term 23 skidoo. However the Flatiron building was completed in 1902 and the slang phrase "23" was already in use, see below.

An article in the June 26, 1906 New York American credits the phrase to one Patsey Marlson, then a former jockey hauled into court on a misdemeanor charge. At his hearing, Marlson is asked by the judge how the expression came about. He explains that when he was a jockey, he worked at a track called Sheepshead Bay. The track only had room for 22 horses to start in a line. If a 23rd horse was added, the long shot would be lined up behind the 22 horses on the front line. Apparently, "23 skidoo" implied that if the horse in the back was to have any chance of winning, it would really have to run very hard. Marlson also says in the article that the expression was originally "23, skidoo for you."

2007-09-05 12:52:32 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I found this passage in a bulletin board, the endnotes have references so the author has done his homework: "So where did the word SKIDDOO of the infamous 23 SKIDDOO come from? Its first appearance in print according to the OED was in 1905 and most etymologist believe it is an alteration of the earlier SKEDADDLE (1861), run away hurriedly, flee. However, in searching the archives of the N.Y.Times, I did find two references which predate that of the OED. One was dated May 16, 1872 in which 'Skidoo' was the name of a sailing ship that arrived in New York harbor the previous day, and the second reference was dated June 23, 1901 where 'Skidoo' was the name of a small sailing boat (a ‘lark’) used in a club racing competition (regatta). I found a total of 8 examples of the word being used as the name of a ship/boat between 1901 and 1905. And the ship/boat references (starting with the one in 1872) would not be inconsistent with ‘skidoo’ being a shortening of ‘skedaddle,’ and someone’s cutesy idea for the name of a ship/boat, a name which, incidentally, is still popular with pleasure boat owners today."

2007-09-05 13:02:32 · answer #3 · answered by ~*~Feelin' Froggy~*~ 4 · 0 0

TWENTY-THREE (23) SKIDOO - This is commonly thought of as a 1920s phrase. But one reference says although it's "generally associated with the Roaring Twenties, it had in fact lost its popularity by the mid 1910s." ("Flappers to Rappers: American Youth Slang" by Tom Dalzell (Merriam-Webster, Springfield, Mass., 1996).

There are seven theories about the origin of "23 skidoo."

1. In Charles Dickens' "Tale of Two Cities," Sidney Carton is No. 23 of a multitude executed by the guillotine. "In the last act of the theatrical adaptation, 'The Only Way,' an old woman sits at the foot of the guillotine, calmly counting heads as they are lopped off. The only recognition or dignity afforded Carton as he meets his fate is the old woman emotionlessly saying 'twenty-three' as he is beheaded. 'Twenty-three' quickly became a popular catchphrase among the theater community in the early twentieth century, often used to mean, 'It's time to leave while the getting is good.'" ("Who Put the Butter in Butterfly?' by David Feldman, Harper & Row.) The theory that the 1899 play was the source of the phrase is attributed to Frank Parker Stockbridge. (Dalzell referring to "A Dictionary of Catch Phrases," by Eric Partridge, Stern and Day, New York, 1977.)

2. ".in the first few years of the century, memorabilia sold at vacation resorts and fairs were emblazoned with either 23 or Skidoo, and the two soon met. (Dalzell quoting Partridge.)

3. "Tom Lewis originated the fad word '23' in 'Little Johnny Jones' in 1904, and 'Skidoo' was tacked on later. (Dalzell quoting Partridge.)

4. "23 was possibly derived from a telegraphic shorthand code, not unlike trucker CB code, meaning 'Away with you!'" (Dalzell quoting Partridge.)

5. Thomas Aloysius Dorgan (TAD), a cartoonist and sportswriter, coined the phrase. The expression "never appeared in his work" but "the simple 23 did appear in a comic published on February 16, 1902." (Dalzell.) Another source says Cartoonist Dorgan "combined 'twenty-three' with 'skidoo.' Skidoo was simply a fanciful variant of 'skedaddle.'" (Feldman)

Skedaddle, according to "The Dictionary of Contemporary Slang" by Tony Thorne, Pantheon Books, originated in the American Civil War and ".suggestions have been made as to the word's derivation; it is probably a form of a dialect version of 'scatter' or 'scuttle.'" TAD "had an undeniably large role in the coining and spreading of slang." (Darzell.) He has been credited with coining "duck soup" and "hotdog." But at least one source says the word "hotdog" was not one of his "inventions": http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/hotdog.htm Accessed September 11, 2003.

6. "23-skidoo" came from an expression that construction workers used while building the Flatiron Building on 23rd Street in N.Y.C. 23rd Street is one of the wider streets in New York that is like an uninterrupted wind-tunnel between the East and Hudson Rivers. Frequently, when one is walking north or south on the avenues and comes to such an intersection, they can experience a sudden blast of wind as soon as the pass the wall of a corner building. Apparently, when the workers sat on the sidewalk to eat their lunches, they would watch women's skirts blow up from the sudden gusts. "I had long been told that these workers called this phenomenon a '23-skidoo.'" March 15, 2003, post on The Phrase Finder discussion forum. http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/index.html

7. The phrase originated in the Panimint Mountains in Death Valley in the early 1900s. The mining town of Skidoo had 23 saloons and if you were going to go get drunk you would try to get a drink at each of the saloons. This started the phrase of going "23 skidoo" if you were going to have a good time. Only two buildings in skidoo were wood. All the others were canvas. September 19, 2000, post on The Phrase Finder discussion forum.

2007-09-05 12:52:10 · answer #4 · answered by Frosty 7 · 0 0

I want to know learning phrases in sequences

2007-09-08 18:53:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

fedest.com, questions and answers