What's up with masculine tomboy women trying to be like Steve-O or Johnny Knoxville.
http://shizzville.com/wax-beaver
This is disgusting and very unlady-like. The women even refer to each other as "man" and "dude".
Is this an example of Penis Envy at its finest?
Is this a result of feminism's attempts at masculinizing women (as it feminizes men)?
2007-09-05
08:26:50
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petruvsky: Actually, the women in the video are not lesbians. Secondly, I'm not interested in "masculine tomboys" or lesbians for that matter.
2007-09-05
09:00:38 ·
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Mollypop: I think it has a lot to do with feminism. Feminism's notions of "liberated women" to take up masculine roles has also resulted in perhaps unintentional side-effects, manifested such lewd behavior which was once almost exclusive to lewd males. In essence, feminism has now allowed it to be socially acceptable for a "liberated" woman to wax her pubic hair and butt-hairs, for her to attach herself to strip-paper taped to a car, and for another woman to drive off; all while laughing, slapping high-fives, and calling each other "dude" and "man", and making disgusting perverted references.
Is this feminism's idea of a "liberated woman" that can be "just like the guys"? I wouldn't use "just like the guys" literally, since most men I know would never do such disgusting things like that.
2007-09-05
09:25:15 ·
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Happy Snappy is 100% correct. I never once said all women are like this -- but it is apparent that it's become far more common for women to behave in such away, especially following the feminist movements (2nd & 3rd wave).
2007-09-05
09:28:51 ·
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Yep just more women wanting to be like men because they envy the percieved 'power' that men have. It's sad really.
2007-09-05 10:40:22
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answered by Zombie: Rebel Without a Pulse 2
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Feminism has absolutely nothing to do with this. We hate the guys from Jackass as much as anyone else. Maybe these women were just making an imitation video, as is popular these days.
2007-09-05 16:56:20
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answered by Rio Madeira 7
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1. This question sets up an essentializing and reductive false dichotomy between "men" and "women." "Men" and "women" are not two opposites set at odds with each other, trying to "win" the "competition." Life is not a competition. Gender categories are far more complex than your question suggests. Please consider intersex and transgender individuals.
2. "Feminine" and "masculine" are not definite, fixed categories. They are ever-changing and have different meanings in different cultures.
3. Why is Johnny Knoxville's behavior (inflicting pain on himself for apparently no reason except to show off for a camera) specifically "male" behavior? What is male about it? If his behavior is inherently male, then it is inherently male to moronically inflict pain on oneself in order to show off.
4. I will remember this question in order to point out that your beloved gender stereotypes support the assumption that it is inherently male to moronically inflict pain on oneself in order to show off.
5. If this behavior is not inherently male, then there is no reason women cannot engage in the behavior if they want.
6. This question assumes that women give a s.hit about "manners" and "ladylike" behavior. The idea of the "ladylike" lady who is very pale, wears debilitating 80-pound dresses, and sits around and sews quilts is a throwback to the Victorian England cult of domesticity. It also assumes that people of all classes should value and strive for aristocratic ideals. Working-class people may not be able to do so. For example, if they have to work in the fields for a living, the women must get their hands dirty in a very unladylike way. Unfortunately for you, women are allowed to run around, exercise, play sports, hunt, and do all sorts of unladylike things in the year 2007.
7. "Man" and "dude" are common pronouns used in the skater culture by both men and women. Women who are not trying to act like Johnny Knoxville call each other "man" and "dude" as a casual if rather unfashionable address.
2007-09-05 16:50:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Is that really any worse than men who cross-dress, look like drag queens, or otherwise act like women? The truth is that we don't all fit into neat little boxes of what is considered appropriate behavior for men or for women. Most of us are a mix of both. We actually don't like being made to fit to a rigid standard or being assumed we are gay or want to be the opposite sex because we don't always want to conform.
2007-09-05 16:27:45
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answered by RoVale 7
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This has nothing to do with feminism...just shows that girls can act like complete idiots, too.
"liberated woman" does not equate "just like the guys."
If you think it does, you have a lot to learn about feminism.
2007-09-05 16:12:42
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answered by Anonymous
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How sexist of you to assume that a woman is acting like a man when they are acting like an idiot. I don't think the majority of men or women would appreciate your low regard for men. Don't you think better of men than that?
2007-09-06 01:09:18
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answered by edith clarke 7
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OMG those women are disgusting. I don't know if they're an example of penis envy but they're definently unlady like....please don't think were all that unclassy.
2007-09-05 16:21:51
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answered by cotton~candy 4
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Some women do act like men but again some men do act like women...Michael Jackson....
2007-09-05 16:05:13
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answered by gannoway 6
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This is more in response to the the feminist backlash as Susan Faludi noted in her book by the same name. This would hardly have anything to do with the theory of feminism, so your question is moot at best.
2007-09-05 15:40:54
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answered by Deirdre O 7
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masculine tomboys are usually lesbians and it shouldn't matter to you whether they look good or not because they wouldn't be interested in you.
2007-09-05 15:53:09
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answered by Anonymous
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