who else thinks china is trying to destroy the U.S.?

Question

look at these:

1)Selling posioned food for the citizens to eat and die.
2)Selling lead painted toys to destroy the future of the country.[the kids]
3)Buying National debts, that way they have the U.S. economy by the balls.
4)Buying stakes in U.S. military weapon building companies.
5)Recently peforming cold war era military excercises with Russia
6)Hacking into the Pentagon.

please prove me wrong.

But if i am right, pls call your congressman or woman and ask them to act before it gets too late.

Answer 1

China was never a threat to the U.S. until Bill Clinton sold them the missile technology they needed so they can target and attack us directly with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. His own state department begged him not to do it. But he went ahead and personally approved the transfer of missile technology from the Loral Corporation (owned by a huge Clinton supporter) to the Red Chinese Government (also a huge Clinton supporter). He also allowed the sale of high powered computers, something that had always been forbidden, to them too. All for a few lousy campaign dollars.

Now they are very much a real threat. Hey, why not elect his wife so she can send them more goodies to use to cut our throats? You have already seen evidence of the Chinese connection to her campaign.

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Answer 2

The Chinese do have a different business ethic than we do. Over time, there will be an equlibrium. China will become much more ethical (as we consider the word to mean) in its business dealings. I believe that the Western world will have a great influence on Chinese business culture because China stands to lose out big in the short term they don't clean up their act.

Here's some historicals. China has traditional had little interest in expansion. For hundreds of years foreigners were called "gaijin," or hungry ghosts. The emperors of china taught their people that there was nothing of value beyond the great wall. Compared to the United States, China has made very few attempts at expansion in the last hundred years. Korea, Tibet, and Vietnam are the three major examples that come to mind (Taiwan is complicated). US expansionism in the last hundred years (the short list): Chile, Panama, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Laos... My fingers are tired! The examples for both China and the US include attempts to increase their spheres of influence as well as actual attempts to capture territory.

The Chinese buy our national debt for several reasons. First, they are not stupid. We do not defaulted on our national debt, and it is therefore a profitable and stable investment. The Chinese LOVE stable investments. Two, the buy it because WE SELL IT TO THEM. They have us by the balls because we pulled down our pants. Likewise, they purchase stakes in defense contractors because bullets are in demand lately, and it's a profitable investment.

As for hacking the Pentagon, that hasn't even been resolved yet. China has a vast number of unsecured computers, as do many countries worldwide. If you know anything about network security, then you know that it is very possible to hijack hundreds of vulnerable computers in the process of hacking the target computer. They will be following the trail for weeks and months. It is quite possible the attack originated in the US, even within the Pentagon itself. This is called information warfare, and it works both ways.

So no, the Chinese are not out to get us. They are a sensible people. They'd rather do business with us.

Martin Luther King Jr. had a dream. I fear you may have woken him.

Answer 3

I don't agree. Big Business is going to destroy the US. China is only the means and the beneficiary. And blind, stupid greed is the motive. Before nearly all of US Exuctives were MBA's, you at least occasionally got intelligent greed.

Mao always said, "The last capitalist will sell us the rope to hang him." Looks like he was right. But the rope he sells them will have been made in China.

Mr God, the Chinese Army is not "poorly equipped." That was true in the 20th Century, so much so that in the "Human Wave" attacks of the Korean War, only the first two ranks of an assaulting regiment carried rifles, the rest were expected to pick them up from the fallen. That started changing in the late '90's. The PLA is rapidly upgrading it's equipment and becoming a modern army, thanks to US technology and US trade dollars. The US Army on the other hand, is totally dependent of China. We can't even make uniforms here any more. The last shirt factory in the US closed in 1997.

Jaacob W. The missile test data that was stolen by China were worthless, records of numerous test failures under Reagan and Bush the first. All told, it was the lamest period in US Rocket Science since Goddard was paying for the program out of his pocket.

Answer 4

Nothing like a bit of the ol' fashioned American hysteria. First it was the commies, then the terrorists, now the Chinese. Why would China want to destroy the US when it is one of its largest trading partners and whose resources help fuel their economy?

China's rise in recent times is often viewed as America's decline but this is false. Obviously you fear China because they have been enjoying huge economic growth in recent years and you fear that in time their increasing influence may pose a threat to the US hegemony.

Now, I have some serious reservations about the abuses of human rights and freedoms in China (and in the US for that matter - take Gitmo Bay for example) and the impacts of their growth on the environment but remember, your country is still far more powerful than theirs and enjoys a much higher standard of living. And hey, if they ever cause you problems, just send over Chuck Norris or Big Arnie.

Answer 5

No I don't think they are trying to destroy the U.S. but the potential is there just like any other foreign country with a large population base.

And no I can't PROVE you wrong. There is no proof to be had. Just like you can't prove that they are. Everyone is just offering opinions here.

What exactly do you think a congressman could do against China? Greedy U.S. corporations are always going to use China for cheap labour, available resources etc. If you're suggesting a Cuba-style trade embargo against China you would almost be guaranteeing hostilities in that case.

Answer 6

This is nothing new. They have been beefing up their military in preparation for a military engagement, probably over Taiwan. They have also been buying up our national debt so that if we go to war they can shatter our national economy. They are a danger, but not a immediate one. Their militray despite the numbers, is still subpar to ours and they know even Russia wouldn't back them in a war. But they are a threat rising on the horizon.

Answer 7

The American leaders that promote trade with China are the ones trying to destroy the US. There is a segment in American business that are against government regulations on safety, labor conditions, and the environment. When we trade with a country with lax or no regulations we end up with poisoned food, lead painted toys and inferior products produced in sweatshops. That's what we'd be producing in the US if the laissez-faire conservatives had their way. As far as credit, are banks and credit card companies trying to destroy the people they loan money to or grant credit cards to? Once again it is our choice to go into debt. We can't blame China now that we are indebted to them. AS far as cold war military exercises, once again it was Bush who turned his back on treaties that go back to the 70s. It is US actions that are reopening the Cold War.

Answer 8

i have really heard alot of people saying the same thing for over a week now, it does seem in some ways like they are out to get us because of the food and toys issues, but why did we not check the food and toys better- are we really so greedy that we would rather save a few bucks and over look things than spend a little and not die?

Answer 9

Here we go again.......

The Sino-U.S. bilateral trade talks in May, where China refused to re-evaluate it's currency and open it's financial sector to foreign competition. It rejected all of the U.S. demands that were aimed at narrowing the increasing U.S.-China trade deficit. Before the trade talks, the U.S. media was the cheerleader of the U.S. side, with widespread reports carrying a confident tone that the U.S. will prevail. The outcome of the talks showed that China prevailed, and in contrast to the widespread reporting before the talks, news of the outcome of the talks were only scantly mentioned in the U.S. media and definitely disappeared from the front pages.

However two weeks later, the U.S. media suddenly began focusing all of their attention on "unsafe made-in-China" products, including very old stories such as the arrest of China's former drug chief which actually happened more than two years ago in 2005. His execution in 2007 was implicitly protrayed in most of the U.S. media to give the impression of being related to the new "product safety scandals", although only a couple of U.S. news outlets correctly reported the background of the story.

Products from China that had never received attention for more than a decade suddenly became front-page news across the U.S. as the targets of an apparent bid to darken the image of China's exports and thereby possibly bolster the U.S. manufacturing sector as well as taking a shot at the widening U.S.-China trade deficit. While the country of origin is prominently stressed in headlines about Chinese-made products, no such emphasis was made in numerous other stories reported in the U.S. media about product recalls of U.S.-made products and products from other countries.

All the while, nothing was even mentioned in the entire U.S. media about the the fact that other countries such as Japan had found more safety problems with U.S. exports than with China's exports. The Japanese media had reported on an authoritative finding that U.S. exports to the country had twice the rate of safety problems as China's exports to the country. But such reports were conveniently ignored by the U.S. media. Furthermore the Japanese media reports that this trend is expected to continue.

Answer 10

i agree. its been insane just the number of products recalled from them in the past year. i think we should cut trade with them off altogether if we know whats good for us. But that probably wont happen because there is money to be made. And thats where madpol1 is completely correct.