Is it fair to say?

Question

That there is a direct correlation between oppression of women and religious intolerance?
A poster just asked a question that made it quite clear that those who do not worship in the same way as him were misandrist. What do you think of this? He also accuses those who do not worship in the same way of having multiple accounts? Do you find this strange?

Answer 1

Hey you have hit on an excellent point, I think people who have lots of hate in them will hate any group of people they can, women, religious people, different races etc...They try to pick on weak groups of people in order to boost their own self esteem and status. Good thing we have lots of psychologists out there who reveal these sad little idiots for what they really are, ignore them because as my mother always says,

"If you argue with an idiot, someone walking by may not realise who the idiot is!"

Answer 2

Not necessarily. It is an interesting hypothesis and one that I am interested to see if it has ever been tested. However, even if there is a CORRELATION this is not the same thing as CAUSATION.

In regards to the poster in question, I didn't see the comment. Are you sure he worships a deity? How can you be so sure unless you know this person on a more personal level? Isn't it also possible that you are taking what this person said the wrong way?

The line "He also accuses those who do not worship in the same way of having multiple accounts?" is meant to be a statement or a question? If it's a question, I'm not quite sure how to respond. If it's a statement, please provide a link to the question. I think many people on here have multiple accounts. A better question would be, if someone had multiple accounts for any reason do you really think they would tell anyone about it?

Answer 3

I don't know about a direct correlation, but I have seen religious views used to promote and enforce oppression of others, but I've also seen religious views used to promote tolerance as well. I've also seen people who aren't religious capable of being nazi's or being humanists as well.

Now if you want to talk about who in the US gets heard the most, then I would agree that the intolerant get lots and lots of attention, and the rest of the decent human beings in the US are ignored. Right now, certain parts of our society are controlled by right-wingers, and other parts by left-wingers, with each side saying the other is trying to take over the world. It depends which day of the week who is demonized the most that day, and who is considered the worst that week.

Answer 4

No, of course I dont. Because not worshiping the same way as one person is uncommon.

Sorry, that was sarcastic. Is t he correlation direct? I dont know, but it seems like the most intolerant religons have very opressive views about women, i.e., "Women must stay home", "A Womans virginity is sacred", "Women are temptation." etc.

Is the correlation the one you think it may be? Im not sure. Is their basis for more study based on what may be a clear correlation?

I think so.

Answer 5

No, I do not believe it's fair to say that. There are posters here that make a lot of ridiculous claims (I didn't see this particular post you're referring to) but I tend to ignore those. This question appealed to me, though, because it seems to me that everything with the potential to be positive for everyone is made out to be some kind of wicked, evil thing. It's all in how people interpret things. Horrible things are done in the name of religion, but that doesn't make religion bad--it makes those doing those things bad. I don't see a correlation between the two things you mention and I agree entirely with Kendrick on this one. Rational people who know how to put things into perspective can look at religion in a positive light and not use it as a weapon. Individuals who are neither rational nor understanding will always use religion as some kind of missile to justify their ignorance. I can't see that changing any time soon.

Answer 6

There isn't the least bit of correlation between the two. Oppression without religion is very common. I do agree however, that what feminists call oppression, will be seen in some religion groups, but again, it's just as common in the non-religious. I know that the person you're referring to, is not even religious.

Hypothetical Breakdown: 1) Various religions have some oppression = x%. 2) The Control Group(the non-religious), have nearly the same oppression = x%.

I do not agree with the Opinion that Religiosity is a mental and social disease. I personally believe that anyone who is not spiritual at all, would suffer more from mental and social illness. Always strengthen your mind, strengthen your body, and strengthen your spirit. Never neglect any one of these.

Answer 7

There is very little about people such as the aforementioned 'poster' that I do not find rather strange. I try to get up every morning with all My mental faculties set to "open-minded", and then get on with the business of living with My fellow beings. Some people have a marked problem with dealing with such a concept. "Previous Poster" would appear to be one of these people.

Answer 8

I have to be careful answering this one because I don't want to make a broad sweeping generalization about religious bigots based on my personal experience and bias. In my experiences most people who are intolerant of other religions or other sects/denominations besides their own usually carry sexists and racists beliefs as well. Evidence of that has been anti-arab and israeli sentiment, church segregation down South, and male opposition of female pastors and bishops.

That being said I'm in the precarious position of having to be fair towards bigots. I shouldn't assume that every religious bigot is sexists or bigoted in other ways.

Answer 9

i think there is a correlation between the oppression of women and all kinds of intolerance, but especially religious. look at the way women in the middle east are treated, and the intolerance and violence that exists there. the same can be said for northern african nations, like the sudan.

Answer 10

i actually find it strange that people are generalizing based on the actions of one or two people.

although, i must say, i quite agreed with the post of yours that he used as an example. but i don't think that he really thinks that people who don't worship the same as him are misandrists.