LaVeyan Satanism?

Question

Well, I must admit, this must be the pinnacle of the truth that human beings fear what they don't understand. I recently dropped my wallet exiting a store, and when I was contacted that my wallet was left behind, upon my return, the store manager punched me in the face for "having the gall to refuse the almighty lord, god" upon fondling through my wallet enough to find my red card tucked between my Discover and American Express. Someone, please tell me why "logically thinking, accepting christians" are so quick to judge others by the name of their beliefs, instead of the quality. Next time, try to learn before you judge someone who actually has similar moral values.

rossonero: i would sue, but i know that i would basically eat **** due to the fact of my being of an "alternative lifestyle"

tim: thank you oh, so much not for siding with the manager whom shall remain nameless because of my dignity, but for at least researching before judging. but may i ask you, for what particular reason would you punch me? for my abhorring of crime? my abstinence? my belief of true equality? or just because i don't believe in a god, or that the "religion at the other end of the spectrum" idolizes a criminal who rose from the dead says that we're evil, drunken, drug-addicted child slaughterers who rape animals and bathe in blood?

kiwi: but how is it that christians can be so acceptant of those hypocrites? it doesn't make you any better than them if you don't have the sheer self-respect to stand up for what you believe in and deny them acceptance. your jesus stood up for what he believed in, shouldn't you?

well twocrows, i must say you represent practically everything satanism doesnt, cheers!

Answer 1

Is this the premise for some screenplay you're writing? What happens after the mean old christian antagonist faces assault charges?

Answer 2

The difference between you and I is quite simple. While you strive to fulfil all your worldly desires be it legal or illegal, The Christian faith (not religion or worldly interpretation) is about acceptance and love for our fellow man.

The fact that the store manager punched you in the face is the act of someone who is not a Christian! You should know that!

A lot of people say they're Christians, It doesn't mean a thing until that final hour where we go to meet our God.

Satan is acknowledged in the Bible so you will be aware of the outcome of your choice.....So be it! It can change!

Answer 3

I read "The Satanic Bible" several times over the years (including LaVey's other books) and considered myself a follower of the "Left Hand Path" at some points in my life (in my 20's). I was even briefly a member of the Temple of Set at one point.

I have changed my viewpoint by looking at the whole picture, not just the Satanic Bible. I would encourage Satanists to do the same.

LaVey was ambiguous in his approach to Satan and Satanism...sometimes calling him a "dark force in nature", but other times he seemed to indicate "the man downstairs" as he called him, was a personification. Even his former followers like Michael Aquino (who had his own spinoff) didn't really seem to know where LaVey stood on the issue. Perhaps Lavey was trying to placate both sides of the crowd; the ones who really believed in Satan, and the ones who didn't.

LaVey lied about his accomplishments in life (orchestra member, lion tamer, etc.), and in fact, was a high school dropout. Despite claims of being a millionaire, he filled for bankruptcy in the 1990's. He no longer owned the broken down house he lived in (which had once been the infamous "black house" when he died. During the 80's, his family lived in poverty and relied on handouts from his family and from public assitance (i.e., welfare, foodstamps, etc.). His teeth rotted out, which happenes to a lot of poor people.

His wife Diane sued him citing physical abuse. He had beaten her all during their 23 year shack up (they were never legally married). LaVey also abused and his his pets. A guy that beats his wife and kicks his dogs... not much of a man in anyone's book!

While LaVey claimed he tried to "keep the nuts out of the church of Satan", he claimed several times to have held a "cannibal feast" for the Church. What do you call a cannibal???

LaVey also forced his female followers into prostitution as part of his "Satanic sex therapy", and kept their earning, beating them when they didn't bring back enough money. In other words... he was a pimp! Despite the claim of not hurting children, LaVey admitted to police that he had been a passive observer while his own grandson Stanton was molested, (confirmed by police records and Zeena LaVey).

Then there's the rituals from "The Satanic Rituals"
A human leg bone or arm bone is used in Homage to Tchort ritual (p.137)
Woman dressed as nun urinates before group into a bedpan in the Black Mass ritual (p.43)
Urine is then sprinkled like holy water (p.44)
Man climbs into coffin with nude woman (or nude man if he is gay) in Le Epais ritual (p.59).
Nude girl is used as an altar (Satanic Bible, Satanic Rituals)
A human skull is used in Die Elektrischen Vorspiele ritual (Satanic Rituals, p. 109)

Now, eventually, when faced with this data, one must conclude: LaVey could not make Satanism work. LaVey, rather than being the "alien elite" was little more than part of the criminal class. He abused women, children, & animals. His magic didn't work, and he died poor and bankrupt. He was even a cannibal on at least one occasion.

And before you say to yourself "..but he was Jayne Mansfield's lover, blah , blah, blah" or "...he had a degree in criminology, blah blah, blah," just CHECK AND SEE if he really did these things, or if he only LIED about it! You can make excuses for him all you want (so do followers of L.Ron Hubbard, Hitler, Sung Yun Moon, Etc.), but it doesn't change the fact he was a loser and a liar.

Did all this chage my viewpoint? It sure did! LaVey was a con artist, not a "junkyard philospher" nor "offbeat intellectual". The only thing he was, was very,very overrated!

Answer 4

sounds like a great story, iv never had that problem, iv had a bit of hate mail from posting on here. it is slightly ridiculas that these people say they have love for everyone, until you mension one word which they dont even know the correct meaning of.

Answer 5

you should have known this was on the road when you decided to follow it.

I would have fulfilled my urge and left a bleeding memory of a scar on his face. So that every time he had to explain it, I would LIVE again in his memory and rage and shame.

Answer 6

well, i just read up on that and, i would have done the same thing.