Which evil organization is the more harmful: ACLU or AFL-CIO?

Question

It may not even matter anymore. These two purveyors of hatred and socialism have joined forces to attack US efforts to detect illegals in our midst.

In this unholy alliance they have appealed to the infamous 9th Circut Court for help in gutting Homeland Security measures:

August 30, 2007

The AFL-CIO and ACLU yesterday sued to stop the Homeland Security Department from cracking down on illegal-alien workers, asking a federal judge to halt new checks on employees' Social Security numbers

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070830/NATION/108300047/1002

Answer 1

For the people who claim that the ACLU is not a contractual hit squad for the enemies of America, (i.e., radical Islamists and socialists) then explain away the message in their charter?

The ACLU and it's satellites seek to destabilize the very foundations that make America the bastion of political, personal and economic freedom.


The 9th circuit court of appeals is a dangerous blight to America's justice system. The National Guard should be dispatched to retake Marin County from the criminals who now control it.

Answer 2

Organizations are not evil. Weather it be ALFO-CIO, ACLU or even the DNC and RNC, organizations can be used for good or evil depending on who is in charge. Both of the organizations you have mentioned have done good and both have done ill. When we blame organization we scapegoat and allow the people who did to the evil off the hook.

It applies to both left and right.

Answer 3

Actually the ACLU because it still changes our laws without the consent of the people. It can manage to reduce all our "rule of laws" to fit just one cause and then cause the majority of the country to live under a dictatorship. Wait, you ain't seen nothing yet.....the laws of religion and state are about to change and it wont be in favor over the Christians.

There are too many lawyers, and that is the problem. They rule from the top to the bottom. Strange isn't it, how we mere humans love to give over our lives to dumb jock attorneys

Answer 4

The suit says the new rules could lead to the unfair firing of legal workers. The vast majority of the discrepancies in the Social Security Administration's database — more than 70 percent of the 17.8 million discrepancies, according to a 2006 report by the SSA's Office of the Inspector General — involve native-born U.S. citizens, the lawsuit notes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070901/ap_on_bi_ge/immigrant_employers_lawsuit_1

Answer 5

Let's see, doesn't ACLU stand for American Civil Liberties Union? And isn't it their goal to preserve and protect what was guaranteed to us in the Constitution of the United States? OMG..... that sounds so harmful......

the biggest harm being done to this nation at this time is Republican Hate Radio. No other venue distorts the truth more often or on a grander scale.

Answer 6

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU
from its own writings



by Diane Dew

Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) seems to take on only cases that are anti-Christian - pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, anti-family, pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, pro-euthanasia, pro-homosexual, pro-infanticide, pro-crime, pro-humanism, anti-God -- and, except for atheism, anti-religion?

It calls itself the American Civil Liberties Union, but the ACLU is not American; it is uncivil (to the unborn, which are shredded mercilessly to pieces without anesthetic); and it knows nothing of true liberty, which can only be found in Jesus Christ, when one is set free from the bondage of all the SIN this evil organization PROMOTES!

Stated Goals

The ACLU's founder, Roger Baldwin, stated: "We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal." (Source: Trial and Error, by Geo. Grant)

The ACLU is destructive to the fabric of our society. Christians must recognize Satan as the source - the instigator - when the end results of an organization's efforts are only "to kill, to steal, and to destroy." All we need to is examine the (rotten) fruit.

Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues:

the legalization of prostitution (Policy 211);

the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4);

the decriminalization and legalization of all drugs (Policy 210);

the promotion of homosexuality (Policy 264);

the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18);

opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263);

opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80)

-- not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85).

Following is a case in point (from David Barton's "America: To Pray or Not to Pray").

In 1988, California was considering adopting legislation on sex education for public schools requiring that course material and
instruction should stress that monogamous heterosexual intercourse within marriage is a traditional American value.

The Senator promoting the bill received a letter of protest from the ACLU dated April 18, 1988 stating:

"It is our position that monogamous, heterosexual intercourse within marriage
as a traditional American value is an unconstitutional establishment of religious
doctrine in public schools.... We believe [this bill] violates the First Amendment."

Truth is, liberals are unwilling to simply let others be, but rather seek to impose their UNgodliness upon Christians. It is a mission to
them and other atheists to pervert the freedoms of others. The ACLU does not run to the defense of those who are harmed; it aggressively
seeks out opportunities to corrupt pure freedoms.

Finances

How does the ACLU pay for its activities?

George Grant, author of "Trial and Error," puts the ACLU's annual budget (1993) at $14 MILLION (FOURTEEN MILLION DOLLARS) - much of which is "SUPPLIED BY THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER through the Federal program mandated by the Civil Rights Attorneys' Fee Awards Act of 1976. If the ACLU wins a case that involves a public institution, for instance, the organization collects the full legal fees of its attorneys even though those attorneys offered their services pro bono (without charge).

Membership

1993 membership in the ACLU was 250,000 members, with 70 staff lawyers, and 5,000 volunteer attorneys, handling an average of 6,000 cases at any one time.

Answer 7

Dead demagogue:
Civil liberties are 'purveyors of hatred and socialism'? Unions are 'purveyors of hatred and socialism'? With this question, you've declared your fascist credentials.
Your reactionary vitriol is against the purveyors of civil liberties and human rights. That makes you a fascist wing-nut.
So does your attacks against the weakest in society (non-legal immigrant workers) who your capitalist allies need to run their sweat-shops.

Answer 8

Neither, Marxist.

The ACLU protects people like yourself who like to post such things on the internet.

The AFL-CIO represents teachers, truck drivers, musicians, miners, firefighters, farm workers, engineers, editors, pilots, public employees, doctors and nurses, painters and laborers—and more.

Sorry you don't agree with every position they take.

Answer 9

THEY ARE BOTH HARMFUL. THE ACLU WILL BACK EVERY CRACKPOT GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY
EVEN SUPPORTED A MARCH BY NAZIS THROUGH SKOKIE, ILL. AN AREA WITH MANY HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS. THE AFL-CIO STARTED OUT TO HELP WORKERS BUT EVOLVED INTO A RADICAL BRANCH OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THEY HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFULNESS AS MANY LEADERS ARE CORRUPT & WASTE MEBER'S DUES TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS.

Answer 10

ACLU for they are good at defending communists, pedophiles, and terrorists.