can any one explain?

Question

the forbidden is wanted
or
the wanted is forbidden
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el mamnoo3 mar3'oob
wela
el mar3'oob mamnoo3

i mean
r both statements correct??

@nada

no proplem .i loved ur answer..i'am not the one who thumbed u down by the way

@nada

no proplem .i loved ur answer..i'am not the one who thumbed u down by the way

Answer 1

Wallahy kont 7as2al nafs el so2al

enta bet2ra afakry walla eh :D :D ;D

anyway
i think some things that are forbidden and it is wanted and there is non forbiden and it is also wanted

i will give u example the computer is not a forbiden for me and i love to play on the computer

the ciggrate and bango 7asheeesh and wine and bears are forbidden but i dont want it

the write sentences should be ba3ed el marghoob mamnoo3 we ba3ed el mamnoo3 mar3'oob

suicide is forbidden then do u want to ?? no i dont think so

Answer 2

First both statement are not the same as Nada explained.

Second, both statement are totally wrong as for generalization, The statement is only correct for those who desire something wrong knowing or not knowing that it is wrong, example:

- Someone wants to drink wine in Saudi Arabia knowing it is wrong. and he knows why

OR

- A kid wants to drive a car at age of 15 in Egypt, he knows it is wrong but he doesn't know why especially that he believes that he is capable of driving at this age.

Then the first statement is applicable in both cases.

The second statement (your invention I guess, lool). Is not correct in any case, except in the situation of torturing someone, I hope you are not doing that :):)

Why both are not the same:

Because the "Al" before the word is used for specific and general, say "Almamnoo3" means that it is known to all that this thing is forbidden, yet some people (exception) want it.

But if "Almar3'oob" is known to all that it is desired, so how come it is forbidden unless you want to torture someone.

I hope I was confusing enough. I myself actually forgot what the question was !!!!!!!!



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Answer 3

The forbidden is wanted/desired
nada gave some very good examples

Answer 4

" the forbidden is desired "............. "el mamnoo3 mar3'oob"

it's "the forbidden is desired", because for example, drinking alcohol gives a nice feeling and makes you relax.........it also takes your brain and senses away (not sure of course for i didn't try it ...lol )............but still it's forbidden/haraam as an order from Allah/God because it might lead you to kill or harm anybody without realising what are you doing.
and see also Brother, in Jannah/Paradise, Allah promised us rivers of alcohols............but for sure that don't take our senses away and tastes the most beautiful than you can ever imagine...............Subhan Allah !!

measure this on everything, like wishing to give a kiss or have sex with the one you love but without marriage, or the usuary ..............etc,
or even on more simple things, like for example smoking cigarettes while knowing the harmful effects of it......and such.

Edit : of course not both are correct...............because, for sure many things are desired and not forbidden, like you want success, love, secure, true emotions and such..........these things you want but not at all forbidden !!

Answer 5

حفت الجنه بالمكاره و حفت النار بالشهوات
ياللا و ان شاء الله الاجابه دى رخره تتمسح اى دونت كار ا بيت
by the way i just love your new avatar , i wish you have a chance to read my answer before someone who cant understand arabic deletes it

Answer 6

some times both of them are correct
other times they aren't

Answer 7

i think it is the 4biddened is deisred or wanted only.
also,the ordered isn't wanted,المفروض مرفوض

Answer 8

sorry 2 say both r right................. in our region only