Does it **** you off that the Yanks are blaming us for the mess they've made of Iraq?

Question

See this story on from the Yahoo UK home page last week :
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070831/tpl-uk-britain-iraq-criticism-81f3b62_1.html

Answer 1

Hmmmm but a couple of our Army Generals had a pop back yesterday!!

Answer 2

they might desire to blame somebody, they might't blame George W can they? Or - doh!! i think of they understand the reality - this conflict grew to become right into a mistake, and that they don't opt to be left because of the fact the only ones there. They forgot that tribalism, not democracy, may be the winning effect interior the region. The 9/eleven terrorists have been frequently Saudi's - so why did not they invade Saudi then? i think of civil conflict is inevitable no count if the allies leave now or in 50 years time. i think of it would not look great that we glance pulling out.

Answer 3

HMMMMM let's see UK....what have you done lately, let me just Google UK blunders: OK here we go..

Chinook blunder 'left RAF short'

The Chinooks were meant to be in service in 1998
Eight new helicopters worth £259m are grounded due to a "botched" procurement, a study by the National Audit Office has said.
The Chinook helicopters could be a risk to fly in cloudy weather because the software which enables them to do this cannot be properly tested.

Fixing the problem will cost an estimated £127m and the Chinooks will remain grounded until at least 2007.

The study says the armed forces are a third below battlefield capacity.

The Ministry of Defence admits, on current plans, that the shortfall will not be made good until 2017-2018.

Instead of desperately needed helicopters, the MoD might as well have bought eight turkeys

Edward Leigh MP
Public Accounts Committee


Chinooks up for sale?
Fact file: Chinook
The Chinooks were originally supposed to be in service in 1998 but radar systems and software developed under a separate contract would not fit in the cockpit, the report said.

They are now restricted to flying above 500ft in cloudless skies, with pilots using landmarks on the ground to navigate, and can only be used on limited trial flights.


Chinooks are used for ferrying troops, artillery and supplies to and from the battlefield.

Answer 4

Yes it does!
"I don't think that's a fair assessment at all," Gen Jackson said."
"In the south we had responsibility for four provinces. Three of these have been handed over in accordance with that strategy. It remains just in Basra for that to happen."

Here's the way I see it, in admittedly over-simplistic terms... it appears the Brits have a 75% success rate in their mission so far. The US has 18 pass/fail points for the Surge, of which the GAO report says 3 are 'pass' and the White House argues that 5 'pass'. My calculations say 75% success for Brits; 16% or 28% for the US. Of course my math could be off, I'm a Yank. :-)

Answer 5

That is typical America. First you are a ally now you are a
fiend. They shouldn't have gone to Iraq in the first place.
Made the U.N. solve the Sadam Hussains problem. Why
is the U.N anyway there for ?.

Now the States is even threathning in invading Iran. As
though they have not learnt a lession from Iraq. How
foolish can one get.

Answer 6

I still haven't figured out how the UK got into the mess.
Do we have to be eternally grateful because the USA, after selling armaments to the Third Reich, finally decided to join WWII and then claim they won the war single handed?
I've been disappointed with 'New Labour' but if the 'special relationship' is found by Gordon Brown's government not to be in the best interests of the UK, then I might just vote Labour next time round - (instead of Lib. Dem).

Answer 7

At this stage of the conflict, if the key players are playing the Blame Game, then you can bet the chances of a military solution in Iraq are next to Nil.

Answer 8

Not at all, if you buy a working Poodle and it does not do the job properly you have the right to blame it.

The US has supplied the UK previous (under Thatcher), and is supplying the next 'nuclear deterant'. Giving us such technology does not come cheap in Uncle Sam's eyes and they demand not only hard cash but also allegiance for it.

What really p*sses me off is that the UK government will not tell its own people what is in the small print of the deal, and that in actual fact we are a sattelite nation to US foreign policy. Yes there is a 'special relationship' but it aint what most people imagine, its a 'special small print relationship' for the US allowing us to be in the elite, but growing 'Nuclear Weapons Club'.

Answer 9

Not really but then lets face it UK have a fantastic wealth of experience in ensuring civil rights and democracy across the former Empire - India, South Africa, Ireland etc.

Whatever is going in in Iraq I am sure that British forces and government are as much to blame as USA.

Answer 10

It pisses me off more to hear a yank saying if it wasn't for them you'd be speaking german!
No Idea!
They Yanks are probably the most useless fighting men out of all of the wars in history!
I remember hearing stories of diggers that cam back from vietnam and hating the yanks because of their bigheaded arrogance, walking around the jungle playing loud music etc!
Useless always were, always will be, never relyon them!
Commonwealth Countries should stick together.
F.uck the Yanks!
Nothing you say to them will actually make them believe that NOBODY actually respects them!!

Answer 11

These are commentaries from individuals that are not the opinions of us "Yanks" in general. Most of us believe that the UK is a trusted ally. You don't see us Yanks protesting against the UK. You don't see our Congress railing against the UK. It's just a few opinionated individuals who think they must blame someone else. Most of us know what the problems in Iraq are, and none of them are the UK's participation and friendship. So all of you individuals out there, don't be so quick to blame us for what a few individuals say about you.