Now that "the Surge" has failed, how will Bush/Bushbots justify our continued presence in Iraq ?

Question

3 of 18 Benchmarks is NOT a success.*


* as reported by the GAO, aka our own government

i say we owe Iraq nothing...they've had elections, Saddam is gone, and we've thrown money at the for 4 years

time_wounds_all_heel…try and keep up with what the money is tied to

misterpeasea...we defeated Iraq OVER 4 YEARS AGO

coragryph...stop it...or provide a solution you approval seeking whore

D.A. S...you are a weak minded sheep with only the fabeled "liberal media" to hide behind...what part of GAO report don't you understand ?

Answer 1

Simple, they will say the "surge" is working and call you an unpatriotic traitor for seeing it any other way. They will say you are only interested in defeat. Lastly they will claim a moral obligation to be there because we took out their government. Strangely though they ignore the Iraqi government telling us we can leave anytime we want.

Answer 2

The surge hasn't failed -- in much the same way as it hasn't succeeded.

All of our efforts have some impact --- but all of our efforts are having too little impact on the ground reality in Iraq, and too much of a harmful impact on our own force readiness.

So, whether the surge can be said to be "working" or not, whether it is labeled a "success" or a "failure" -- those are political labels that are almost meaningless.

In the bare facts reality -- violence in Iraq is still much higher than it was last year, or the year before that, and shows no sign of reversing that increasing trend -- and we simply cannot maintain the current force levels that we have now, whether they are helping or not.

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EDIT: Do you want a solution, or a strategy?

Here's a strategy -- withdraw US troops from Iraq as soon as safely possible. Allow the country time to try and establish a working govt. If a "bad person" (someone we don't like) takes over, then we knock them down (as we did with Saddam) and tell Iraq to try again. Repeat as necessary.

It took less than 1% of the annual funds and annual US casualties to depose Saddam. We can do that 100 more times for new leaders, over the next half century (six months per Iraqi govt attempt) and still spend a tiny fraction of money and lives that are being lost with the current plan.

You want a solution? --- There isn't one. People will choose to fight. They've been fighting in the middle east for centuries. They're not going to stop any time soon for very long. So, there is no way short of mass genocide to get them to stop fighting each other. The best we can do is punish them if they keep fighting, which only gets other countries mad at us.

We cannot solve the problem because it's not our problem to solve -- they will fight as long as they want to fight. We need to deal with our own problems, and take care of our own country first, second and third. And stop trying to be the world's police -- that's the closest solution you'll ever see.

Answer 3

It's a vicious circle...the U.S. military occupation is the fuel to the fire of terrorism...two facts can't be denied: there was never a suicide bombing in Iraq before the 2003 U.S. invasion and there was no such thing as "al Qaeda in Iraq" until AFTER the invasion.
Now Bush and Clinton both say we need to fight al Qaeda in Iraq.
The real reason (Hydrocarbon Law benchmark-80% of Iraqi oil fields open to Foreign Oil Companies) goes unspoken except by politicians not corrupted by Corporate cash.

Answer 4

What is your news source? Oh yeah, I forgot. It is the left wing liberal media that does not know how to report the facts of any situation. That would be called journalism. Instead this media practices fantasyland reporting based on the communist input of secular humanism. Oh yeah, the value-free liberal democrats.

Answer 5

By telling us the mess we created will only get worse if we leave. That may be true for the Iraqis, but not true for our soldiers. It's time to let the chips fall where they may. If this were a business venture would we keep throwing good money after bad?

Answer 6

By saying and pointing out it will be chaos and bloody if the US army leaves and you know what they're probably right.But what they fail to mention there is it will be bloody and chaos if America stays too.
The longer you stay the longer US soldiers die for the ego of that pseudo Christian in the white house.And you're still gonna have to leave which will lead to chaos at that moment

Answer 7

The only surge that has failed is when you try to sneak into those all boy bars you attend without paying the cover charge.

Answer 8

How does it feel to be in a party of LOSERS????

That's right you are LOSERS. murtha harry nancy hillary and the rest of you surrender monkeys.

Does it make you proud to LOSE???? Do you really like it?????

It has not FAILED as much as you democrats would like.

We WILL win and we are WINNING. The democrats are worried that if we win it will be bad for them in the next election.

And Guess what????? Since you are all losers you will not be surprised to find you will be out of power after the next election.

Answer 9

They will justify it as we removed their government, so we have to stay until it is stabilized so Iran doesn't take over.
They don't realize the fact that the majority is Shiite, al-maliki is Shiite, and Iran's president is Shiite, so we are only fighting the inevitable.

Answer 10

Probably by saying.........We have to attack Iran cause they got WMDs! and they are the ones causing ALL the violence in Iraq!