Yankees question?

Question

Okay before you read this don't start the yankee's suck and boston rules ****!! This is a serious question and i wan't some good opinions.

I'm not a Yankee fan or a Boston fan I'm a tigers fan but there's something that urk's me a little.

Joe Torre is praised by people to be one of the best coaches in the majors and that he's so great and all of these things but little do people remember he was 894-1003 before he went to coach the yankee's.

Do you think that he is a good coach or do you just think that he is one of those cases of being in the right place at the right time?? (or just having all the best players?)

Can i get some stars here?? lol

Answer 1

DEFINITELY right place, right time.


Thomas, the 1998 team was what?????

You need your head examined. Seriously.

They had 8 guys with 15 HR's, and 4 with 24. How can you say this lineup isn't power-packed:


Knoblauch
Jeter
O'Neill
Strawberry
Williams
Martinez
Brosius
Curtis
Posada

Pitching staff:

Pettitte
Cone
Wells
Irabu
El Duque

Rivera closing

My high school baseball coach would've won 114 games with that team.

So many uninformed Yankee "fans"
.

Answer 2

It obviously doesn't hurt managing a group of $200 million superstars.

That being said, I do give Torre credit for being a good manager of personalities. He keeps a lot of big egos in check, which is probably a bigger part of his job than what happens on the field.

I don't think he's the best of all-time or a groundbreaker, but there have been plenty worse. He and the Yankees have found a good fit.

EDIT - Someone below mentioned that Torre took over a 1996 team that wasn't very good. For the record, their staff that season was Pettitte, Jimmy Key, Kenny Rogers, Doc Gooden and David Cone...not a bad group. And the offense included Wade Boggs, a young Jeter who hit .314, Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neill, and Tino Martinez. Wow, how did Torre keep that sad group out of the cellar?? Come on, a monkey could have managed that team to the division title.

Answer 3

I like to use the Phil Jackson scenario here. When he came to the Bulls all the pieces were there so how could he fail and the same goes for Torre. Has Phil ever taken a team with little talent and brought them to a championship? NO! You give a guy a load of talent and if he fails with that then he really does suck! Torre has always been given the best talent and I personally think he is a so so manager if that. Hell I could do what he has done this year with the team he has! A real coach/manager is the one who takes the team from the celler and developes the talent and gets them to championship caliber level.

Answer 4

Torre was a player manager for a while so while those games go on his managerial record I honestly believe it is a very different situation to manage in. I'm not making excuses for him it's just a very different situation that should be taken into account.

The other big part of this issue is that he is not a Mike Scocia type of manager that needs to manufacture EVERY run. He is more of the type of manager that can iron out clashes between all the players in the locker room. Only Sheffield can come up with something bad to say about Torre so maybe that's a sign that he is an extraordinary manager.

It doesn't hurt to have great players on your team, however, Grady Little wouldn't have gotten any of those Yankee clubs to the World Series let alone win them.

Answer 5

He's been a coach for a very long time and I think is he does a great job with the team he is given. The Yankees are in the news everyday for games and misconduct with the players (A-Rod) so Joe has to be interviewed everyday. I think he handles it well for the circumstances. Most of the other teams don't have as much controversy surrounding them so it is an easier job to just deal with the game and not worry so much about the players. Joe is a good manager which is why the team has such great morale which shows in their performance.

Answer 6

Wow, you know, I wondered the same thing. Maybe we would be able to determine if he is a good manager or not, if he went to a team like, the Devil Rays or Kansas City. But even a horrible manager might not be able to win with a great team. A manager has to make decisions like:

1. When to put in a new pitcher
2. Make a line-up that will produce
3. When to rest a player
4. When to intentionally walk a batter
5. Shift the defense
6. When to lay down a bunt, hint and run, or steal a base

And these are just some of the decisions. Don't forget he has to also keep his superstars happy. Not easy in a place like New York.

Answer 7

First of all,,When Torre won his first championship,in 1996 the team wasn't full of superstars! the same for 98,99,,the superstars came in 2000,,Also its very hard to manage a bunch of superstars,,with all those egos!,Torre has a very laid back approch with his players,he's very calm,Torre did a great job with the yankees!He always had a one on one relationship with each and every player,BUT!! now here's the thing! I think Don Zimmer helped Joe Torre in making alot of those decisions on the bench! Zimmer was a great bench coach,,and since he's gone,,we haven't gone to the world series,,I also think that your Jim Leyland,,And our Torre are alot alike.Both are good men,,However if the yankees do not make the playoffs,Torre is gone,,and JOE GIRARDI!! will be the next yankee manager! Not Don Mattley

Answer 8

Combination of both. I dont care how good a coach you are if you dont have the players you can only do so much.

Just as an inferior coach with great players can slide by.

Answer 9

Managers get too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses. That being said, Torre has been the right man for the job in NY.

Answer 10

well if he was bad when he came to new york but he found success in new york but i guess if you have great players you have an advantage but at the same time if he does bad there he gets all the blame but hes a good guy to coach the Yankees