The mythology of greek it isn't greeks but is Albanian, all the names and words have sense only in Albanian dialectic language! Informed your self take an Albanian dictionary and the Iliad in original language like Homer write it, comparate the worlds by your self!When Homer was born, the Greeks had just recently learned how to use the alphabet from the Phoenicians. Homer lived around 700 BC, in the Archaic period in Greece. No one knows where in Greece he lived exactly, and Homer didn't make up these stories, or even the words, himself. The Greeks lived in a lot of little city-states they do not have a nation and in the Bronze Age each one had in its own city a king.Before the Trojan war there is no indication of helens.Greeks were invited by pelasgians in their cities .
2007-08-30
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- Zeus survives as "Zot" in the Albanian language and it's mean "VOICE". The invocation of his name is the common form of oath among the modern Albanians. Athena ( the Latin Minerva), the goddess of wisdom as expressed in speech, would evidently owe its derivation to the Albanian "E Thena," which simply means "speech." Thetis, the goddess of waters and seas, would seem to be but Albanian "Deti" which means "sea."
- The word "Ulysses,"whether in its Latin or Greek form "Odysseus," means "traveler" in the Albanian language, according as the word "udhe,"(udhetues) which stands for "route" and "traveler," is written with "d" or "l," both forms being in use in Albanian.
2007-08-30
22:29:28 ·
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Absence Of Evidence Does Not Correlate To Evidence Of Absence.
According to mythology Illyrios was the child of Cadmus & Harmonia. And Cadmus was the son of Agenor who was a greek hero! So all old greeks were pelasgians. So the old helen only by languge different from other pellasgians(illyrians, epiriots, macedonians). They rapresent only a partial culture of a big nation. The question is:"what are the new greeks"?
2007-09-05
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more important element in the population of Greece is formed by the Albanians (ca.240 000), called Arvanitae (Arnaouts) by the Greeks, while they name themselves Skyptars'
Karl Baedeker Greece: 'Handbook for Travelers' in 1909
2007-09-05
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The Arvanites (the white greks of today) are closer to Albanians in their DNA, but it's their problem that they call themself greeks and not arvanites because there are brainwashed.
The Y-Chromosome Haplogroup Frequency- The Today Greek CHART Population hg1 hg2 hg3 hg4 hg7 hg8 hg9 hg10 hg12 hg13 hg16 hg21 hg22 hg26 hg28 Greek 11 22 8 0 0 0 28 0 0 0 0 28 0 3 0 POPULATION DNA DISTANCE FROM Greeks: 1 Cypriot 8 -2 Turkish 21- 3 Ashkenazi Jews 23-4 Sephardic Jews 24-5 Romanian 26 -6 Muslim Kurds 26-7 Bulgarian 29-8 Armenian 30 -9 Kurdish Jews 32
- today greek blood and DNA: The genotype and allele frequencies of the 9.1-kb polymorphism in 1,844 unrelated healthy donors from Mediterranean populations living in 26 different geographic locations. The frequency of the 9.1 kb + allele is remarkably uniform and less than 0.50 across the different populations living in North Africa and Greece and ranges from 0.44 (Casablanca) to 0.49 (Athens)!!
2007-09-05
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This is my DNA examination done in this intitution www.genetree.com/index.php , and i'm an Albanian born in the old city of Apolonia(Fier today)
Eu4 10%-Greco/Cretan-Phoenician
Eu7 50% -pelasg-Illyrian-Germanic
Eu18 40% - Roman/Latin & Euro-Celtic .
in Homer's Iliad, and Odyssey, whilst the aristocrats such as Achilles and Menelaus have blond hair, the slaves Eurybates and Thersites are brunet. Indeed, the Greek orator Dio of Prusa noted that the Greek ideal of beauty was a Nordic one. The Greeks, he said, admired the blond Achilles, but thought that the barbarian Trojan Hector, was black-haired. [Günther (1956).]
The poet Bacchylides said that the women of Sparta were blonde, and Dicaearchus said much the same thing about the women of Thebes. [Günther (1956).] For the Greeks, the most beautiful woman who ever lived, Helen, was a blonde, as were those mythical men such as Adonis, who were famed for their handsomeness. [Sieglin (1935).]
2007-09-05
02:07:20 ·
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The Albanian population structure is analyzed based on the allele frequencies of six classic genetic markers: ACP, GC, PGM1, AK, ADA, and 6PGD. The results show a significant heterogeneity between the Albanian population: the frequencies of some alleles, particularly those of the PGM*1W31 variant, and the analysis of the R matrix still show the actual peculiar genetic structure of the Albanians!
Albania = 75% Dinaric, 10% West Mediterranean, 10% Alpine, 5% Noric = 5% periphery Nordish.
Rif: http://www.racialcompact.com/n ordishrace.html
Even the name GREEK isn’t greek! Romans added their latin suffix -ci making it Graeci. Well, in Pelasgian mythology “Graia” or “Graes” were three old ladies sisters of the monsters called Gorgon and u can grab any mythology book and read their story. In Albanian language "Gra" means exactly that, “Old Ladies”. Singular "Grua/Gruaja" and plural "Gra".
2007-09-05
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_language
The name Albanian has been found in records since the time of Ptolemy.
A few brief written records are preserved from the 15th century, the first being a baptismal formula from 1462. Albanian is an Indo-European language which forms its own branch in the Indo-European family and has no close relatives, was recognized by the German philologist, Franz Bopp, in 1854 were elaborated by another German philologist, Gustav Meyer, in the 1880s and 1890s, further linguistic refinements Danish linguist Holger Pedersen and the Austrian Norbert Jokl.
Although Albanian has a host of borrowings from its neighbours, it shows exceedingly few evidences of similitudes with ancient Greek; one such is the Gheg mokÔn (Tosk mokÔr) "millstone," from the Greek mekhane'. Obviously close contacts with the Romans gave many Latin loans; e.g., mik "friend," from Latin amicus; kÔndoj "sing, read" from cantare.
2007-09-05
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The following etymologies illustrate the relationship of Albanian to Indo-European (an asterisk preceding a word denotes an unattested, hypothetical Indo-European parent word, which is written in a conventionalized orthography): pes‘ "five" (from *pŽnk e); zjarm "fire" (from *g hermos); nat‘ "night" (from *nok t-); dh‘nd‘r "son-in-law" (from * gem ter-); gjarp‘r "snake" (from *sŽrpon-); bjer "bring!" (from *bhere); djeg "I burn" (from *dheg ho); kam "I have" (from *kapmi); pata "I had" (from *pot-); pjek "I roast" (from * peko); thom, thot‘ "I say, he says" (from *k'emi, *k'et . . .).
Of ancient languages, both Dacian (or Daco-Mysian) and Illyrian have been considered its ancestor or nearest relative.
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-42623/Albania
2007-09-05
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x hoplite: I'm Blond, blue eyes, white skin and 1.90 high and I AM ALBANIAN BORN IN CITY IN SOUTH ALBANIA AND I HAVE PARENTS IN EPIRIO = ARVANITAI AND THEY ARE ALL BLOND, WHITE, LIGHT-EYE LIKE ME ! BY THE WAY THEY CALL THEM SELFS ALBANIANS!
2007-09-07
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It's called, "Interpretatio Graeca."
Clarification:
Zot is the Albanian word for "Lord."
Zë (pronounced "zuh" for those who don't know) means sound // voice.
Finally,
Zëu means "THE sound // voice."
Thunder makes a hell of a loud SOUND, don't you think?
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@ RAGZEUS
-"By the way who suggested this ridiculous theory??
Some crazy characters from Tirana I assume!!"
No, man,
Emile Legrand,
Milan Šufflay,
Ludwig von Thalloczy,
Jean G. Kersopoulos,
...(just to name a few)
ALL believe Albanians have deep roots in the Balkans !!
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No one (except Albanophobes) believes in the ridiculous theory that Albanians are latecomers to the Balkans and the Aghuan people of the Caucaus are their ancestors !!
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I meant these historians believed in an Illyrian-Albanian continuity, which makes Illyrian influence on Greek mythology PLAUSIBLE !!!
- Šufflay: http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=fe32956f-8ccf-4d32-a6c2-6fd88f0a1287&articleId=bd63c5d1-6bed-4d8b-bca5-5a3a5975b9ac
- Thallóczy's: "Illyrisch-albanische Forschungen" (Illyro-Albanian Investigation)
Plus, the Albanian translations fit the mythology, unlike the fanciful Greek interpretations:
- Zëu (sound) relates to the rumbling and cracking of the THUNDER that Zeus throws down. What does "the living one" have to do with the mythology (nothing).
- What made Odysseus "hateful" ?
- Your etymology of Athena is just a GUESS, the name has UNKNOWN ORIGIN
http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/myth.php
- Last, but not least Aphrodite, "risen from the foam" ...LOL !!!
What came first, the name or the "fairytale" of her birth.
As a Greek, you should be embarrassed that you've managed to screw-up Thetis with Tethys !!!
This only proves that you only copy-and-paste other people's mistakes and pass them off as facts. READ THE WORKS OF REAL HISTORIANS FOR ONCE !!!
2007-09-04 15:20:55
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If you were a Greek in ancient times and someone mentioned to you something about Albanians then you would go "Who are the Albanians?". Basically the Albanians are jealous of Greek history so they steal it and claim it there's. Now why do people like the Albanians and FYROMians like to steal history from Greece? Oh I know, because Greece has such a glorious history. Your question should be the other way around. Have a nice day :)
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Albanian Mythology
2017-01-02 09:21:29
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answered by schexneider 4
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What we learn today about history, it doesn't mean that it is not twisted. It is a say' the conquerouer makes the history", the wise and tricky keep records no just of their life but to the other people they encountered. In two or three hundred years from now, the english literature will teach the world of the english dominance in culture, language and technology in today time. It will somehow put in darkness the rest. So, the history will speak mostly english. Would you accept it fairly?
The fact is that no people in Balkan is a true and direct bloodline representing the ancient people lived there. The today greeks are not able to emit the same values or role of helenic world. It appears the same for italians or egyptians. The egyptian, helenic culture, latin culture were not just a egyptian, greek or roman culture. It is the product of all those races and culture flourished then. The helenic era is the perception of old pelasgian, illyrian, persian, fydian. As latin culture has in it, old french, germanic, spaniard... Those cultures that illuminated the humanity, were built over the roots of older cultures existed prior to them. It was a need to keep track and record the history and the events. The egyptian, greek or latin were means to achieve it. There were just a few written languages. The same way the english world intends doing now, sure with a big difference: Every nation is able to keep track of its own history, and I don't think that it wouldn't be easy for the english to supersede the memory of the rest of the cultures.
My quest to everyone: How much on our today activity , other than politicians (they loved to twist people mind), would a very uncertain ownership over the history of humankind written and rewritten million of times helps??????
2014-11-05 12:11:29
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@Hoplite
can u define me what is a grek? I can bring u original documents of the first constitution of the Greece 1820+ that clearly define a greek. 'Any person living in the new broders of Greece which is orthodox.'
As for robing tombs : all i know is that during the economical crysis there was a huge scandal in Greece,Thesaloniki. cmon man bring smth else.
Albanians came down from mountains???? lol we wage ware vs ottomans for 25 years and were victorious while the high greek priests bowed down and recognized the sultan as their leader, in 500 years no uprising from the greeks (how come??? )
the people of the mountain brought independence in 1820 to you....and they still lead that piece of a land. look at your famous leder family names and you will be en-lighted.
As for the Helen of Troy - first of all Homer never existed as a character, his two poems known to the whole worlds are 500 years apart and too different in writing methodology. Helen could have been even gray :) knowing how she came to life.
By the way it is the greeks are more darker than what they shall be if they claim to be descendants of those migrations. blone or brunetes means nothing if u come from afro/asia.
2014-12-21 20:24:30
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Mythology is just a very short part of Greek culture. Albanians might be older than Greeks, but they were an insignificant tribe, nothing compared to Egyptian, Greek or Chinese cultures.
2014-03-07 11:44:07
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I honestly really like dirty blonde hair it looks truly pretty
2017-02-23 02:23:09
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The only albanians in the history of archeology are the ones who were opening and stealing tombs !
The albanians were uncivilized, small tribes who were living high in the mountains of the west balkans.
They came down from the mountains because they took advantage of the gap that was created from the massacres by the ottomans to the christian populations of the balkans. just like it happen in kossovo.
Go steal a chicken or something, that's what the albanians are good at. You will fail in stealing greek history.
Add : The other greeks here answered most of your theories. I just wanna add that the Helen of Troy wasn't blonde. Homer was smart enough to avoid describe how she really looked. He written that she was beautiful but he never written that she was blonde or brunette. He did that because he knew very well that the idea of what is beautiful is different in every persons mind. By avoiding to describe he let the reader imagine helen just like he or she desires.
As for the blonde greeks... you are trapped in what you say. The pre hellenic people were brunette. The waves of greeks that came to greece had blonde and brunette people. How can you say that the albanians are related with those prehellenic people and at the same moment insist that the albanians are more "white" than the modern greeks.
Just to let you know, the percentage of the blonde people in greece is more than the one of the albanians.
2007-09-05 05:59:40
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answered by Hoplite 3
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wow,it took me long time to got through all u wrote,,r u gonna split the atom .come on.hello??ancient civilizations were built on great knowledge and wisdom.i heard so much of greeks civilization,but albanian..sounds kinda of out of order,no offense.u guys must have something.,but it sure aint what the greeks have ,u cant compare them both,and we know such accusation is like throwing stones when your house is made of glass,,personal opinion dude..this is nonsense.get a life
2007-09-05 10:37:26
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answered by reifguy 6
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http://mein-makedonien.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-pelasgians.html
2014-10-03 04:06:54
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What are you talking about?
Last week in the local press issued that the PM Sali Berisha asked for a scientific team to write for first time(!!!) the history of Albania.
I hope you have invited to participate in that " scientific " team!
If you don't,... please send me your ID to suggest your participation. It is at least shame, Albania to loose a such educated person, in your effort to find finally your lost identity. How you could join to EU without history. Don't worry, Greece has a lot to lend you!
Anlarm in Albanian yes=po.
falemenderi sum dear Albanian "neigh boor"
2007-09-05 05:16:05
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answered by dofaegean 3
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