Consider....
- They were all extremely wealthy, many with hereditary wealth.
- Many owned slaves and it's believed that some abused these slaves. Jefferson apparently fathered children by a couple of his.
- They were extremely pro-business. In fact, their opposition to British taxes was the result of the impact those taxes had on their profit.
- They used the media to insight the public to war with blatant yellow journalism. Did you know that even with the tea tax, tea in the colonys was cheaper than tea in Great Britain?
- They opposed any form of public 'welfare'.
- They opposed any form of public tax. ALL taxes came from import fees.
- They insighted war with England more to free their business enterprises from British taxation and control rather than for any altruistic 'human rights'.
- They were all, to a man, devoutly religious and sought to protect religion from government oppression.
Does this sound liberal to you?
2007-08-30
12:29:28
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Graciouswolfe: The facts I presented are fairly common knowledge and not difficult to verify.
2007-08-30
12:51:28 ·
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I_laugh: I'm sort of laughing here. If you believe that, isn't amazing then how liberals have changed. Just the thought of liberals fighting for anything is a rather astounding thought. Sorry dude. Your public education has failed you.
2007-08-30
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Lindsey: They already had freedom. England of 1776 had the same form of government as they do today. Would you call the British subjects oppressed? Their protests were against often trumped up slights like the Boston Tea Party which had no basis in reality. This protest and many others were instegated by Sam Adams and aimed at reducing taxes to increase profits, not to reverse some injustice. Take off the rose colored glasses. The war was fought to increase business profits, not to free an already free people. And that new government of 'change'? Well, there was nothing there. They had a blank slate and document they wrote reflects ALL of the conservative values of today. Our founding fathers would be turning over in their graves at the crap liberals of today are pulling.
2007-08-30
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hahahahahahaha,maybe in those days.today they would be crucified as raging right wing maniacs.how times have changed.
2007-08-30 13:31:34
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I think most people are missing the point of what your saying. They were radical. They broke the chains off from tyranny and carved a new country out of nothing but a the burning desire for a freedom no other country had ever had before. Most people are saying they were Liberal for their day, which I suppose you could say was true. A Liberal back then was like a Libertarian today. They wanted less government control and more rights to the people. But they are not what we would consider today a Liberal. Its meaning has morphed so much over the last 100 years. Today, the would be considered Conservatives. Another point people are making is that some favored a stronger central government and some favored states rights. But that by no means makes Federalists anything akin to the people who want more central government control today. They would still be considered very Conservative. If people would actually read some of the diaries and papers by the Founders, they would find all I said to be true. Heck, go read the original Constitution and Declaration of Independence. My argument is fully supported in those papers alone.
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Yes but look at their biggest features. They questioned EVERYTHING. They made sure that the people of this country could express their ideas and question the government. They left room for CHANGE. Something which CONSERVatives do not enjoy too much. They rebelled against England. They held protests they burned their houses, killed their men, waged WAR on them all in the name of freedom. Would you see any modern conservative speaking out against their government THAT much? I don't think so. They were Rebels. The were neither liberal or conservatives.
2007-08-30 12:41:04
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Then as now there were differences of opinion, but you did not have todays reublicans and democrats. Fedralists were probably the Liberals of the time, though far removed from todays liberals. They believed in a strong central government. The GOP didn't start until around the time of Lincoln.
2007-08-30 12:40:59
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The were God fearing men and women, they were not your Liberals of today - Go here, and you will see what kind of people they were - http://www.restore-christian-america.org/index.html
They were the reason this country progressed, because they humbly implored God's favor, unfortunately, times are changing, for the WORSE, I might add. People have forgotten how they gained their freedom, and how they are able sustain their freedom ....
The Founders put God first and country second, Why? Because they understood through the teaching of God's Word that it is best to do His Will that they might continue to have blessing.
Look at us now ... I society riddled with people who are desperately searching for answers to their problems, because they have been brainwashed into the Liberal mindset, How SAD, how very, very sad ... the Liberals want to give "choice" to the people, and yet, deny the very instruction of the only thing that can save them the agony of a broken heart, soul, and mind ...
However, 'There is One Lawgiver who is able to save and to destroy.'
Granted, He will surely look upon those who do His Will first and foremost.
JR
2007-08-30 13:04:32
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answered by Jeremiah Johnson 7 7
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I love that response! Your first poster, completely unaware of what he is saying, thinks they were liberal.
So if I point to an oak tree that is five feet high, and then to a pine tree that is ten feet high, and say that the oak tree is short, and the pine tree is tall, then fifty years from now I have to say that the oak tree is short, and the pine tree is tall?
How silly.
Of course they weren't liberal. Compared to the time, of course they were, but they had few of the values of modern liberals and many in common with present day conservatives.
What silliness. It's as silly as the old "Was Jesus a liberal" argument.
Thank you for a detailed post.
It won't be understood by many who really don't read history books. They just yell at others to read them as if that supports their position.
2007-08-30 12:43:32
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answered by mckenziecalhoun 7
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So where might I go to investigate your information ? Or did you manage to time-warp yourself into the past and discover all of these things by becoming their friend, foe, or business partner?
2007-08-30 12:46:18
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