Why the abundance of sexual deviancy in the Republican Party?

Question

I thought dems were supposed to be the sexual deviants while the repubs took the "moral high ground." So why do you suppose then that there is so much "deviancy" on the right side of the isle? Theres Sen. Vitter (R, LA)who keeps getting caught with prostitutes while presenting himself as the Candidate of Family Values and the Sanctity of Traditional Marriage (ironic, no?). And Sen. Larry Craig (R, ID) busted trying to get busy with an undercover cop in a public toilet - tsk tsk Senator.... And who can forget Rep. Mark Foley (R, FL) who was not only looking for gay sex, but gay underage sex. Yikes! Oh and James Guckert (aka Jeff Gannon) who was a gay prostitute right before he became a White House Press "Reporter." And have you heard yet that Alberto Gonzales has been accused of covering up a sex scandal involving teenage boys and the guards at the Texas Youth Commission? Oh how the list goes on. Heres a link with many many more if your interested...

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

espreses - no, but Republicans do, which is why is so ironic (and funny?) that so many of them are gay. But prostitution and pedophelia certainly are - gay or straight). Anyway, thats why I put "deviancy" in "quotes"... Please try to pay attention.

Shelly P - Great resource. Thanks for posting. The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

alberto g - Sorry, I'm pretty sure self loathing, sexually repressed men that try to present themselves as "moral high grounders" while getting a BJ by the prostitute under the desk are not the norm. Politicians and priests have 1 thing in common - sexual repression. Causes problems my friend.

Souldogs - I appreciate a well thought out answer. Thanks for contributing!

TheUber1337 - see the 2 answers above yours. Think man, think!

TheUber1337 - have you been following politics long? Guns God & Gays? Republican DO claim to take the "moral high ground" - ask them. Its all they ever talk about, except when talking about guns. God & gays play into it. ANYWHO, they claim to want to protect marriage, no sex before marriage, they don't want teenagers to be educated about sex, they call gays "an abomination in the eyes of the lord," write laws banning porn and prostitution, are always shrieking about "protecting our children" and then turn around and commit acts of adultery (a sin) with a prostitute (illegal), a gay prostitute (illegal and an "abomination"), a gay underage prostitute (I think you get the picture...

nostradamus02012 - Well you've just brought this to a whole new level! Thanks, very interesting. I will check it out. Love the little quip at the end re: his dancing. Good stuff! ;)

East Coaster, I like how all of your - I don't know, what do you want to call it - evidence? - is almost entirely 2 decades or more old. Secondly, 50% is pure allegation. I especially like your #1, thats a pretty broad statement to claim that Kennedy's testimony alone "won over the jury" - like lack of evidence didn't have anything to do with it. But you should have posted the link that you cut and pasted from. I can offer more Repub. too if you really want to go all the way back to the 70's. Oooh, snap! sucker.

Answer 1

i personally don't think it's the emphasis on religion, which is very diverse and not always sexually repressive.

i think it's the emphasis on manliness, macho, tough guy mentality - the same thing that made bush (who was born in connecticut and eductated in connecticut and massachusetts) want to buy a 'ranch' in texas.

the same sort of thing happened in wilhelmine germany. there too there was a tremendous emphasis on being a tough guy and women were actually expected to yield the sidewalk to officers in the army.

there too the result was similar - a generation of perverts. there is one memorable scene, documented in the fascinating book, the arms of krupp, where a general in the prussian army actually appears before his kaiser and brother officers in a tutu and dances like a ballerina - and then promptly falls over dead. apparantly, no one really thought this out and they didn't try to get him back into uniform until rigor mortis had set in.

still, all present (the kaiser included) had to agree that he had danced beautifully.

i am not making this up - check it out!

edit:
republicans are very thorough about recording the many democrats that have also been caught with their pants down, so to speak, but they will have to forgive the nation for being more interested in what happened in june 2007 as opposed to 1982, 1989, the 70's or the 80's.

Answer 2

Why do liberals care about sexual deviancy in the republican party. How come only liberals criticize sexual deviancy amongst republicans? Weren't they the ones who took the "moral high ground" on sexual freedom?

Edit: I've seen those posts already, this is my response.
Since when were the Republicans the ones with the traditional sex "moral high ground"? Since they said that gays shouldn't get married (which was probably more due to the sanctity of marriage and respect for religions that made marriage and said homosexuality was bad from being forced to allow marriages that their beliefs said was wrong, in other words, out of respect for religious people, then because they thought gays were disgusting)

I did think, no ad hominem attacks in civil debate.

Answer 3

Sexual "deviancy" is a human condition and not a Republican or Democrat issue. The problem is that Republicans make the mistake of ridiculing or trying to legislate "deviancy" and try to use their public stature to make morality a weapon in the political arena. This sets them up to look like hypocrites.

The world is much more complex and actually more accepting than it used to be... so when someone uses morality as a standard for political means then the majority of the public will cry out hypocrisy. This is one arena that the Democrats are smart enough to avoid.

You have this in both parties... it just isn't as big a deal with Democrats because they don't make sexual morality an issue like the GOP (and they only do it to attract the evangelical Christian vote).

Answer 4

The deviant Republicans outnumber the Dems by more than 2-1. Being gay is one thing being a weirdo is another.

Answer 5

the problem isn't deviancy, it's hypocrisy, and I suspect you understand that, though others will jump at the chance to call you homophobe.

Unfortunately you have to go over every statement like a lawyer, or get wacked...the people criticizing you are Republicans who normally get fried over people being "PC" but they don't mind being "PC" when it serves them.

Typical Republican Hypocrisy.

You will certainly find more openly gay Democrats, while Republicans shame the openly gay, and must keep their own sexuality in the shadows (where true perversions and paraphilias can blossom).

Answer 6

This have nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats, is the way human beings are. Just look at the Catholic Church and that have nothing to do with politicians.

Answer 7

It's no WORSE than in any of the other Party's. It's just that it STANDS OUT more- because Conservative Republicans like to wrap themselves in the mantle of, "holier than thou"- morality, & end up getting hung at the end of the rope of Hypocracy! :) They tend to be people in "glass houses"- who like to throw "Stones..." :)

Answer 8

Deviancy must be contagious:

10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990

8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.


Have a nice day

Answer 9

It isn't Deviant if everyone's doing it

FOLEY HAGGARD 2008

Answer 10

Do you really equate being a sexual deviant with being gay? A bit of a bigot aren't you.