This guy "Butch" writes that the trusses collapsing made short loud explosive sounds. But this nutjob disregards people burned in other lower floors of the buildings prior to the collapse, who said there were loud explosions. If they heard explosions they couldn't be from floors collapsing obviously.
More significantly, the video "Hoboken" shows how there were 9 seconds of explosions PRIOR to the collapse of the trusses.
Also in loose change there is video of the tower taken from a mounted video camera shaking from a different building 9 seconds prior to the collapse.
There were 9 seconds on the hoboken camera...and 9 seconds from the mounted cam proving the explosions occuring prior to the demolition.
Regardless, the trusses were not falling. The explosions were caused by something other than the trusses.
As far as the pentagon film. NTSC is 29.97 frames per second. If in fact this was not a normal camera, then there might of been a time lapse. However this is unlikely because there were so many clips released of the explosion. At least 6 or 7 of them. 2 of the small tip of the unidentified craft which was much to small to be any boeing. There were also many other camera tapes confiscated by the FBI that probably have all the footage of the cruise missile (or other very small craft that fit into a 9 foot hole before the collapse of the outer wall). Thank god butch your are only a patent attorney and do not have to represent any of the slain 9/11 victims.
2007-08-30 12:44:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Just a quick heads up for everyone who still think it was Al-Qaida who attacked us on 9/11.
There is a growing awareness movement in our country. Americans are realizing and accepting the fact that our government is using to terrorism to push their agenda to illegally invade any foreign country it wishes, launch illegal wars, control Middle East oil, stifle our freedoms and setup a domestic police state.. "for our security"
Millions of people have come to realize that Terrorism is a toolbeing used by the Administration. A very powerful fear mongering tool. This makes one have to question the real truth about 9/11.There is a mountain of irrefutable evidence that proves without a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 was the brainchil and work of rogue elments within our own the government.
You will never see anything that I'm saying on FOX News,MSNBC,CNN or any other mainstream media source for that matter.They cannot deviate away from National Policy. They are either directly or indirectly regurgitate White House Press releases and henceforth just perpetuate the propaganda released from the Pentagon.
Once your paradigm has shifted, you will laugh when you see Bush on TV saying "we have to attack and invade Country X because the terrorist will get us."
This will seem as naive and silly to you as your parents saying you better go to bed before 8 or the boogeyman will get you...lol
Do your research, you can check out my sources below. You will feel liberated and enlightened to know the truth. You will know who's really behind the terrorism and why they want and need terror. Do not live in fear of Al-Qaida, they are merely just the shadow on the wall. Live in fear of the shadow maker, this is your true enemy.
2007-08-29 23:47:45
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answered by Anonymous
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THANK YOU: "-RKO-" and "djjosephm", you guys perfectly explain what happened, and what IS happening right in front of us.
Everyone that is SO QUICK to slam down their "CONSPIRACY LIES" stamp, and "IT'S NOT ON TV SO IT CAN'T BE TRUE" stamp, need to SERIOUSLY open their eyes and REALIZE... that just because we're the "land of the free" doesn't mean that our government cares about us as much as you THINK they do.
2007-08-30 00:50:20
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answered by superbaler 2
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Nobody is afraid. Just annoyed. Your post doesn't have anything new. This is just the same old crap that has been already debunked dozens of times over.
(1) Before the WTC tower collapsed, the floor trusses within were already collapsing. You don't think each collapsing floor truss made a short loud sound? No, you nutjobs think that only explosives can make a short loud sound.
(2) As the building collapses, puffs of smoke are seen coming out of windows beneath the fall. You don't think that the pressure wave preceding the fall is blowing out windows? No, you nutjobs think that only explosives can blow out windows.
(3) A security camera at the Pentagon takes a few still shots every second, but doesn't capture an image of a jet. Given how fast the plane was travelling, you don't think that the odds were against a still photo capturing an image of a fast jet plane? No, you nutjobs think that if you put the still photos together and run them like a cartoon that you should be able to see everything.
(4) WTC collapses without a plane striking it. Given that the building was within the blast radius of WTC 1 and 2's collapse, and given the large tanks of diesel fuel within WTC 7 used to run its generators, you don't think that the stress from shockwaves and exploding diesel fuel might have brought down WTC 7? No, you nutjobs think that only explosives can bring down a building.
If you nutjobs have some much faith in the strength of buildings that engineers design, why don't you listen to engineers when they tell you that the "official version" is correct? You nutjobs can't handle the truth.
@ Spoiler47, the floor trusses are WITHIN the building. They collapsed prior to the exterior shell. What you see collapsing in the videos is the exterior shell. As for the sounds they made, they would be very loud. Bursting steel bolts and crashing into other columns with great force, the sounds would be tremendously loud. The higher ranges of these sounds, when muffled by the acoustic impedance of lower floors and concrete stairwells, would be lost. The remaining audio signal would sound like explosions to people within the stairwells.
In simpler terms, Spoiler47, people running down a stair well in terror are likely to describe the "big booms" as explosions. Not many would instantly say, "those were floor trusses." Don't quit your day job. Engineering is not in your future.
Oh, and by the way genious, in order to become a patent attorney, one must have a science degree. I am more than just an attorney. Unlike you (obviousy), I have studied the applied sciences.
As for the type of camera used at the Pentagon, you need to do better research. That's not even an issue. Your reference to 29.97 interlaced frames of video per second is nonsense. That's the standard for TELEVISION broadcasts and reception, not security cameras. You are a living example of what people mean when they say that "a small amount of knowledge is a dangerous thing."
2007-08-30 10:50:51
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answered by Dutch 6
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I believe there is sufficient, credible evidence to - at the very least - question our government's version of events on 9-11-01. It's highly likely that our government participated in - or at least knew about - the tragedies.
When one considers all the "coincidences", it just seems improbable!
* George W. Bush's younger brother was in charge of security;
* Larry Silverstein was losing millions on his real estate investment, and was a friend of the Bush family;
* Eye witnesses discuss hearing "explosions", and seeing buildings collapse in the same manner as they do when torn down by professional demolition crews;
* Demolition crews were in the building days before the explosions, (doing what?) on vacant floors;
* Such an emotional impact fueled the Bush administration's ability to instill fear in Americans, opening the door for an unjustified, unconstitutional, illegal, immoral 'attack' on another sovereign country that in no way threatened, provoked or attacked the United States;
* Confusion and disorder at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport at the same time Flight 93 was 'crashing' in Pennsylvania;
* Little actual debris at the New York, Washington, or Pennsylvania crash sites.
For those who aren't skeptical, I suggest that they recall how many times our government has lied to us in the past fifty years:
* Speculation that FDR knew about the Pearl Harbor attack, but allowed U.S. soldiers to die knowing it would propel us into World War II;
* Unsatisfactory explanations as to the events in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947;
* The Warren Commission's sanitized report on the JFK assassination - and then sealing all documents for 75 years (until 2038) when most of us who witnessed that tragedy will be dead and gone;
* U-2 spy planes flying over the U.S.S.R. were vehemently denied by the U.S. until Khrushchev shot one down and displayed it for all the world to see;
* The government lied about U.S. battleships being 'attacked' in the Gulf of Tonkin, which stuck us right in the middle of the Vietnam War;
* Our military lied about the effects of Agent Orange on Vietnam veterans;
* The White House lied about a third-rate burglary in the Watergate Hotel until two reporters dug out the truth and forced the resignation of a U.S. President;
* The White House lied about 'weapons of mass destruction', which dumped us into an insipid, insane 'war' in Iraq, all for the sake of OIL and WAR PROFITEERING;
* Our military lied about the torture and sexual abuse of 'detainees' until a dedicated whistleblower posted photos on the Internet;
* The Reagan administration lied about how 444 hostages 'coincidentally' were released from Iran on the very same day - and at the hour - that our new President was being inaugurated. Only years later did we find out about an evil 'arms-for-hostages' deal that became the massive InranContra scandal;
* The government lied about 'secret' CIA prisons.
If the government has lied to us in the past, WHY is it too much to assume it might have also lied about 9-11??
As citizens, we have a Constitutional right - and obligation - to hold our government's feet the the fire, hold a modicum of skepticism, question our government's motives, and doubt the government's word. WHY was much of the debris from 9-11 used to build a new U.S. battleship instead of being stored for further investigation and examination? Do we have reason to doubt our government's veracity? I believe so! -RKO- 08/29/07
2007-08-29 23:29:43
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answered by -RKO- 7
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most people are even afraid to think this might be true so they will hide in their little bubbles and call anyone questioning the official account a tinfoil hat wearing kook.
they lied us into a WAR people. it's not to hard to imagine they'd lie about other things..
2007-08-29 23:17:32
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answered by Anonymous
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The Q "How would you disprove that this is not evidence"
The A: We don't need to disprove anything.
You need to prove that it IS evidence.
Otherwise, the scene itself is prima facia evidence that others sought to bring harm to us as a nation and did.
Bin Laden took responsability and admited guilt on worldwide TV.
Those who flew the planes documented involvement in suicide notes.
I knew people that were aboard the plane that hit the pentagon. So explain to the friends and families how they died.
Explain the blast pattern at the pentagon.
Explain two planes flying into the towers while tens of thousands watched on scene.
You have the right to ask, but really, what you question flys in the face of reason.(no pun intended)
2007-08-29 23:30:04
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answered by whitiepossum 3
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rosie odonell caused the building to fall with the extra weight
2007-08-29 23:12:13
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answered by Anonymous
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2007-08-31 12:06:01
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answered by Anonymous
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It was an inside job........
2007-08-30 23:10:03
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answered by Texas Democrat 3
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