Whatever happened to due process.....?

Question

John Kerry says our soldiers are sneaking into houses in the middle of the night and terrorizing civilians.
Obama says they're randomly bombing civilians.
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These men supposedly represent our government and its' system of laws. Whatever happened to due process?
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Our boys sweat and they bleed. They crawl in the dirt and run with 100 pounds of stuff when it's 130 degrees, without question, simply because it's their duty and someone told them too. If senior members of our government are going to say these heros commit war crimes, BY GOD they better be able to prove it in a court of law!!
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Where is the due process for our soldiers? Every scumbag terrorists in the world has to have his day in court according to democrats, but they attempt to convict our greatest young men in the court of public opinion without presenting a shred of evidence. Where's the outrage and justice for the baseless slander of our soldiers?

LAWMAKERS - painting our soldiers with a broad brush and declaring them guilty without a fair hearing or a shred of evidence seems outrageous to me. If our soldiers are doing this en'masse like they say, them darn well better bring charges and name names, or STFU and stop slandering good men! Who would want to serve under Obama if that's what he thinks of them?

Answer 1

Due process requires notice of charges, and an impartial tribunal where the accused can defend themself.

Some individual soldiers are charged with doing things that violate rules of war -- those individuals are notified, and given a court martial. Some are convicted, some are acquitted -- that's due process.

And yes, the fact that they are acting in a combat zone is often taken into account as a mitigating factor -- as in the case of two soldiers who were recently acquitted on murder charges because they acted in good faith and simply made a bad tactical decision in the heat of the moment.

Due process requires a fair hearing -- it's not a free pass.

Answer 2

You have combined 3 terrible events.

When our people do something heinous they are held accountable this is a good thing.

The problem is soldiers are not paid well enough to afford an attorney. No due process for the middle class.

Imprisoning a few hundred men with out cause is one of the 30 charges against President Bush. America has never done anything so shameful and we are not going to let him get away with it. We want the world to know we will hold Bush accountable for this and all involved.

It is proof enough for me that the media did not declare the crimes of these imprisoned men. Or the world would have rejoiced at the capture and imprisonment given the facts of the crimes they committed.

The world will now rejoice when the criminal behind this imprisonment of innocent people is behind bars.

America dropped 55,000 bomb with an acceptable 30 people per bomb kill ratio acceptable(civilians) during the first 100 days of what appears to be a completely unarmed population and in a main capital of another country. Their has been no one to offer resistance.

Under the circumstances every middle class American stands the chance of imprisonment since the middle class of American can not afford representation.

Answer 3

Unfortunately there are crimes being committed against citizens of the warring countries. It has happened in every war and will continue to go on. One thing I disagree with in your statement is the fact that the "democrats" are the only ones asking for these trials. Not true. The UCMJ is the ruling judicial force regarding military. UNTIL it comes to war crimes. The Geneva Convention was set up to make war fairer to all sides. Being an educated person I do not believe they would bring even 1 soldier before a court with out proper proof. War is hard, and war is ugly but there are codes that govern how war is conducted. Being an Army Veteran I also know that s*** runs downhill. If someone at the top gives an order the people below him don't question his request. They just do as they are told. Too many times soldiers have taken the fall for senior commanders. War is ugly and I do agree that we need more people to stand up when a soldier is incorrectly accused of a war crime. It seems like so many Americans either put the war on the back burner or try just to ignore it. As a former soldier I know how hard they sweat and the terror they put not only their bodies, but also their minds through. I have true faith and alliance in the troops fighting unnecessary wars is right night. We as a people need to support our troops more and stop blaming them for the war!! God Bless our Soldiers.

Answer 4

"what ever happend to due process?" well if I remember correctly, Gonzo didn't recall that being a right.

And the military is goverened by the UCMJ, so that's a bit different than a court of law goverened by the U.S. Constitution. I'm not sure what the major differences are but I suppose your question was more to make a point rather than differentiate the two.

Answer 5

It is called free speech.

I am sure you are taking their comments out of context as well. Since you provide no source, I can only assume.

Unless a specific action is taken against the soldiers, no due process is needed.

Answer 6

Great question,and its an abortion that this happens espeacaily when it comes out tof the mouths of those who want to comander and chief

Answer 7

JOHN KERRY, THE COWARD? SOMEONE SHOULD BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM. HE IS SUCH A LIAR AND PURE EVIL.
I WONDER HOW MANY MORE PURPLE HEARTS HE HAS FILLED OUT PAPERS FOR.

IT IS NOT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IT IS SLANDER AND THAT IS NOT UNDER FREE SPEECH.

IF HE WERE REPUBLICAN THEY WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH HIM WAY BEFORE NOW.