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Need help on baseball situation. Runner on 3rd , no outs , batter hits grounder to shortstop and the ss blows it and gets an error . Runner on 3rd has scored on this and batter now on 1st . Does the batter get credit for an RBI in this situation ??? And also , does the run count toward the pitcher's ERA after this play has happened ??? Two parts to this question. Thanks , Tony

2007-08-29 00:56:02 · 9 answers · asked by tony_italian44 1 in Sports Baseball

9 answers

In your example the batter would get an RBI and the pitcher would be charged an earned run provided the runner on third base was not on base as a result of an error himself and was running on the ground ball to the shortstop. The scorekeeper will never assume the shortstop would have tried to throw the runner out at home. So even if there was no error and the batter was out at first base the runner on third base would have scored. Of course, the batter would not be credited with an RBI or the pitcher an earned run if there would have been two outs when the error occurred. If the runner on third base was on base as a result of an error the batter would still be credited with a RBI but there would not be an earned run charged to the pitcher.

2007-08-29 01:41:30 · answer #1 · answered by Frizzer 7 · 1 0

In that situation, the batter does get an RBI, unless the shortstop blows it by making a bad throw home. If the shortstop boots the ball, or makes a bad throw to first, then the run would have scored, even if the out were made. Batters do get RBIs for groundouts which score the run, so the batter gets an RBI when the effect of the play is changed by the error. If the same thing happens with two outs, then there's no RBI, because the run scores only because of the error. The same thing is true for the run being earned. The run would have scored even if there were no errors, so it's still earned.

EDIT: I agree with llk51 below. I was assuming here that the runner was going to try to score on the groundout no matter what. If the runner was staying put, then no RBI, and whether the run was earned depends on what happens the rest of the inning.

2007-08-29 01:14:44 · answer #2 · answered by Thomas M 6 · 1 0

You can't tell if the run is earned until you know what happens in the rest of the inning.

The official scorer would make a determination on the earned run. if he felt the run would have scored even if the batter was thrown out, he'd give the batter an RBI.

vilhelm: Where did you get that assumption? That's way off base.

2007-08-29 01:20:30 · answer #3 · answered by llk51 4 · 1 0

On this play there is not an rbi or change in the era, however, it there were less than 2 outs and another batter gets a hit before 2 outs in the inning then the era could be charged against the pitcher, because now the run would have scored regardless of the error.

2007-08-29 01:05:00 · answer #4 · answered by lestermount 7 · 2 4

An error eliminates any chance of an RBI. The error does not count against the pitchers ERA.

2007-08-29 03:02:27 · answer #5 · answered by Vilhelm 3 · 0 3

No RBI for the batter, and no to the earned run against the pitcher.

2007-08-29 01:15:48 · answer #6 · answered by rhuzzy 4 · 0 4

No RBI and no earned run.

2007-08-29 01:01:54 · answer #7 · answered by Doug 4 · 0 4

no rbi same era no run

2007-08-29 01:02:06 · answer #8 · answered by RUFFLES#2 3 · 0 4

no

2007-08-29 02:02:21 · answer #9 · answered by david wright+jose reyes= WS 3 · 0 4

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