Does anyone give a damn about Iraq?

Question

I don't have any family that live there, nor do I really care about the day-to-day goings on there. Poor American kids are dying there every day for nothing, I don't care what people say. Iraq is not the 51st state, and the people don't contribute taxes to us. Al-Qaeda is a joke, and a tool used by the US government to get us to do what they want.

I keep hearing that Iraq break down into a civil war and everything will go to hell if America leaves.

???

Does it look like I'm going to shed tears over that? They're not our responsibility, we're not the World Police! We won't even help the people in Darfur!

This crap is over, soldiers need to go, that's all I have to say.

Answer 1

YES I DO. We need to get out of there now. Before more troops die! What a selfish view. These are your fellow Americans who are dying when they shouldn't be.

Answer 2

We are not supporting our troops by permitting them to be slaughtered in a sectarian war that was caused by our invasion.
I care about all these young men and women fighting Bush's war of choice. An ill thought out choice.
We caused this and we are making it worse every day.
How it will end is that Moktada al Sadr will become the new strongman in Iraq and just behind him, running the oil and the money will be the old neo-con's pal, Chalabi.
We are now irrelevant.
The Sunnis and the Shia want to kill each other, and they have wanted this for centuries. The Kurds want to separate from Iraq which is not their country, and they do not want anything to do with Iraq.
The Pentagon says clearly that there is NO POSSIBILITY of a victory in Iraq.
Some people who answer on this site talk about the democrats who did not go to war. Hello? Bush, Cheney, Wolfewitz?
Just look at what they did to the only soldier on hand, Colin Powell. Disgraced him. Not Democrats. Republicans did this.
John Kerry went to war.
The Pentagon says that victory in Iraq is NOT POSSIBLE.
Repeat.
Foot soldiers are not necessarily good at strategy. Or even foreign policy. Look it up for all wars.
Al Qaeda in Iraq (or in Mesopotamia as some now call it)
was created by our invasion. The Pentagon says they are responsible for about 15% of the killings. The other 85% is sectarian, Sunni vs. Shia.
We caused this mess.
Ultimately the US will leave, whether in 10, 20, 30 or 50 years. And the Sunnis will still be killing Shites and the Shites will still be killing Sunnis until one of them wipes out the other.
So, what are we staying for?
So Bush doesn't look like the total A/H that he is.
He wants to dump the whole problem on whoever succeeds him and then he can claim that Whoever Lost Iraq. That will be the mantra for the Republican Party for the next eight years if the Democrats win the next election. If a Republican wins, well H, who knows?

Answer 3

If we do pull out with the civil war still going on, I think we should try to get Turkey, Iran, and the rest of Iraq to come to some peaceful terms with an independent Kurdish state in the northern section of Iraq. Apparently the Kurds had a defacto democratic country there and were doing pretty well while we kept Saddam from attacking them. They also have had pretty good relations with us and helping them set up a free and democratic country would give more meaning to the sacrifices our troops have made.

Answer 4

It's a matter of priorities.

Realistically, Iraq is going to be engaged in a civil war for most of the next decade -- whether we stay or not.

Statistically, the longer we stay, the more intense the violence gets and the larger the weekly death toll -- so it's obvious that staying isn't making things better.

It's a matter of priorities -- and nobody has yet given a good reason that US money and US lives should be wasted trying to stop Iraq from fighting itself when it really wants to.

Answer 5

First off as someone that has been there, it helps out the morale when you know that your own country is behind. It also helps when your own media reports all the positive things your doing out there. Beleive me it hurts when guys like Harry Reid say we already lost the war, he should be tried for treason, it sends the wrong message to the troops, and makes our enemy stronger. If the enemy knows that the morale and our elected officals are caving in there gonna get bolder and stronger and up the amount attacks, with more road side bombings, suicide bombs, etc. because they feel the more violence they spead the weaker we will and break our will.

Military tactics, since most liberals who never sereved think they are well schooled HIPPIE in military tactics. We made mistakes in the begining no doubt, it's a differant kind of war and we underestimated the Terror cells in Iraq. We would drive them out, annd keep pushing and not leave a proper security force behind while we were pushing forward, as we were pushing forward and on the offensive the terrorists just pulled a 180 and moved back in while we were gone. The troop surge is putting a stop to that since we can maintain a proper security force and establish 360 degrees of security.

Also it's tough out there, in the begining since we weren't sure who was friend or foe, the enemy doesn't dress in Military uniform they dress in plain street clothes and our own ROE'S hurt us in the begining.

I know most Liberals who have never served seem to think they know all in Military tactics and the Iraq people, but news flash at the end of the day the good people of Iraq who have been ruled savagely by Saddam, want us to finish the job or at the very least make it place where they finally have some sort of civilized society.

Those sanctions were placed by the U..N. on Iraq when Saddam decide to invade his neighbor we call that the Gulf War, Saddam also broke 17 U.N Laws for 17 years, and not using profits from oil to feed his people. Get your fac ts straight, and Clinton bombed him in 98 during operation desert fox with the same intell Bush had WHEN WE WENT TO WAR
I am taking about a civilzed society were you don't have to worry about that the leader of your Country is gonna MUSTARD gass you like Saddam did, Also a civilzed leader who doesn't kill you if you speak out against the GOV, think about it pot head, your on here everyday spitting Anti-Bush, Anti-U.S. crap on this site all day long, now I ask you, if you were an Iraq under Saddam rule would you be able to do that, NO you would be dead. Also Saddam straved his people, bruttally murdered them. I got more examples if you need them.

I've heard the cries, when the gun fire has ended and no bombs are going off ,you look into the eyes of the people and there happy were there.

Some still talk about how they lived in fear lived in a world that you and I couldn't possibly image, Like you leader mustard gassing you, Saddam did that, and the people lived in fear of it, They also lived in fear that if they opposed him they would be killed, There others but getting tired,


, that's no way to live and if we leave and don't finish it, they will once afgain be ruled by fear, Osama, Iran or whoever warlord.

Hippie it tough out there, You son't even know a quarter of it


Now if the terrorists drive us out and win and gain a whole country like they had in Afgan do you think there gonna treat the people of Iraq kindly, or rule with fear, and kill those who oppose them, just like the taliban did in Afagan,

Trust me, it would be a nightmare, it take from someone who has been there, if we just cut and ran right now, it would empower our enemies, bring instability to an already volatile region and Iran and Osama, would have another to use as Training centers, for terrorists, and a safe haven. Then when they go back on the offensive and bring the fight back on U.S. Soil, the left wing nuts will blame Bush for leaving early. Bush is in a no-win-situation

Answer 6

So basically you want us to leave them to rebuild their country after we went there guns blazing, blew half of it to hell, killed their leader and sparked a civil war that has been waiting to erupt for the past decade?

Answer 7

Ahhhh Yes.

For America to go to war a goodly number of damns must be given.

And I do get that yours is not among them.

But wouldn't it be nice, it the top of the page said:

ask. answer. rant.

Answer 8

I didn't care before bushes mistake and the way the Iraqi 'government' is handling things, I care even less now.

Answer 9

Not really. It's more about finishing the job more than anything. Just another camel flea invested desert. Without oil we wouldn't even be talking about them.

Answer 10

I agree. I'm just waiting for the day when Bush wakes up from his LCD-induced fantasy and realizes that.