I think several things:
1) No police officer should be permitted to operate a so-called "sting" such as this alone. Otherwise, if he or she has a political affiliation or perceived desire to make someone look bad, it's hard to prove one way or the other that they are not lying. I'm not saying the cop is bad, but hello, we have all heard of dirty cops, right?
2) If this information is indeed true, then it is a shame for Larry Craig, it is a shame for the people of Idaho, it is a shame for the republican party, and it is a shame for the people of the United States. I don't know what is wrong with some Americans today, but it is embarassing to be associated with some of these idiots.
3) At this point in time, I am so disgusted with all politicians I am ready to vote totally independent on the next big election. PLEASE, somebody bring me some candidates who are not pushing their kool-aid for the sake of their party, and are willing to fight for something that makes sense.
Sometimes I feel like politics is the dumping ground for all losers. Especially those who have sexual issues (Clinton, Craig, Foley, Kennedy, and a million others). They want to be in a position of power so they can abuse it. SICKENING.
2007-08-28 15:48:55
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answered by whatrukidding 4
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Ignoring the obvious issues of his alleged conduct... I have a big problem with a senator who lies to the people.
Anyone who has ever been accused of something knows how it feels. Whenever you're accused of something (whether you did it or not), your first instinct is to object... you want to scream "I didn't do it!" Perhaps if you're a mature person who really did wrong, at some point you accept it and admit that you were wrong.
Think about it... you're driving 80 in a 65 zone on the highway and the cop pulls you over... the first thing you do is act innocent ( "what's the problem officer?" "Oh, was I speeding, I had no idea" "Well you see officer I didn't mean to be speeding, I " ), but then you get your ticket and you have to go to traffic court the next week and by then you've accepted it and you go plead guilty and pay your fine and you're on your merry way.
But if you're actually innocent, you fight the accusation. I know because it happened to me. It's winter and I'm coming to a light that has turned yellow... I know there's no way the car is going to stop in that amount of time (the roads are so icy that if I touch the brake the car's going to slide through the light anyway), so I decided it was better to keep control of the car and pass under the light a little late. So this jerk police man pulls out behind me and pulls me over. I told him that I didn't want to stop for the road being icy and I went to my pretrial and pleaded not guilty and then i came to the court again and told the judge what happened. There was no way I was letting it go... I was absolutely right to go through that light and I wasn't going to lie and say that I had done wrong.
But look at what Larry Craig did. Whatever events took place, he was charged with disorderly conduct. He goes to court and pleads guilty. He says now that he regrets it... he should have had legal counsel... he should have plead not guilty. But does that make sense at all? I mean, if you're innocent, you don't just go plead guilty to the court! The feeling of injustice of being wrongly accused makes you want to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court (as the saying goes). But Craig goes in and pleads guilty. Then he comes back making comments to the press and the American people that he really didn't do it and I guess by implication that he lied to the court when he plead guilty. Either way he's lying. Either his pleading was a lie to the court (in which case he ought to be held in contempt and [i think] removed from office since Senators should not lie to the judiciary) or his later statements to the People are lies. I think the latter is more likely. Either way is very wrong. I'd think a politician would have more tact. And I am sorry to the people of Idaho both for having this negativity cast on your state as well as for having a liar as your representative.
2007-08-29 15:12:23
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answered by kmnmiamisax 7
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He has to be gay. Normal heterosexual men do not seek the company of other men in an airport restroom. Also, why did he plead guilty to a "lesser charge" of Disorderly Conduct in hopes that this would go away??? An innocent person would fight to have his or her name cleared totally. Craig didn't do this because he was afraid something would come out. He is typical of the Republicans; does a great job talking the talk but doesn't quite walk the walk.
I rank Craig up there with Michael Vick, Paris Hilton, and Lindsay Lohan. They just don't get it. They want the power and prestige of being in the public eye but none of the responsibility. They are not John and Jane Q. Public any more. Craig should have known (after all, he is college educated for God's sake!) that something like this would end up making headlines and if it didn't he should have considered the possibility that someone would take something like this to the media.
Any way you spin it, Craig is a BUTT PIRATE!!!!
2007-08-28 22:27:14
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answered by Anonymous
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While I don't totally agree with these police "sting" operations, I think him and that other FOOL (Mark Foley) are cousins and should grow up. Larry should know better. If you don't like your lifestyle, then change it. Tell your wife, etc, you want some penis for a day and go get it in proper ways, not in a men's rest room. It's that simple. Land of the free? Yeah whatever U.S.A. What a joke.
Gay isn't the issue here; lewdness is. (Doing things that are inappropriate to 99.9% of society). I'm sure walking around nude in public whether you were male or female would get you arrested too, same difference here.
If you want to do your business then do it in the proper format, at a strip club, with a porn star, with male satyr friends that you met on the internet, etc...
Larry Craig is so ugly, that he did what he did out of desperation. No one would want to kiss him through a ceramic pole, let alone have sex with him.
And he lies about his gayness, cause like Mark Foley, he's a closeted idiot, that doesn't want to take responsibility for his repression or actions. He may be bisexual. Well guess what? Bisexual guys are also homosexual/gay. Imagine that. :\He somehow thinks lying and saying he is not gay is somehow going to save him from this debacle. Dream on Larry.
Police that do these types of operations are just looking for an easy bust. And they get them in droves this way. The same can be said for the infamous Pee-Wee Herman bust at the XRated Motion Picture theatre. (You would think that if someone didn't get a little friendly with themselves in that type of theatre it would mean it was a bad movie.)
2007-08-29 13:33:53
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answered by Anonymous
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i think the undercover cop should get at least one witness that's not biased to fully proof. this larry person is so old, i am sure his sexual desire probably got spider webs.
i think it's either some type of set up by govt. by reading how his foot to the door, or ball whatever in a public bathroom doesn't make sense. someone please recreate the scene or something.
so he said to public 'he's never been gay'. why would gay people be offended by that? it's an old traditional guy telling it, and don't put wrong pressure on this ole guy with new attitude.
if he did well in his politician job, why america wants to lose the person who's been 'working' to keep up by picking up some conduct?
was there any more that larry has done to add?? ya gov't, keep all your confidential 'secret' in this matter, leaving the rest 'puzzled'.
arrh.
2007-08-29 16:53:18
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answered by h 2
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My thoughts:
he didn't really do anything to the undercover officer, there was nothing spoken aloud, no disrobing, no touching except I guess by his foot under the door, on accident he says.
So I can understand him being panicky and not wanting there to be a charge of lewd conduct. He actually was never charged with lewd conduct. If what he did was lewd conduct, then why did the police in MN drop that for just a charge of disorderly conduct? It sounds like there is some room for interpretation on both sides.
people will say, why did he plead guilty then, if he wasn't guilty, but I say, why did they drop the charge of lewdness if he was guilty of anything?
I don't know what's in the man's heart or mind or what he really intended. I think he has been a good representative of Idaho all these many years, and this is such a non-incident that I don't get why it is being so magnified.
2007-08-29 09:37:38
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answered by Sweet n Sour 7
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I think what Ben Stein thinks - the police were overreaching, he was railroaded, he didn't do anything wrong, he plead to a lesser charge to make his flight, and now he has resigned over essentially nothing. But once the media has made the charge, there is no way to stop the millions of stupid people who believe what they think they hear. So many think he was soliciting sex for money, or any number of other things that were not even mentioned or part of this event. So I think it's unfortunate he had to resign, but you know what, the gay rights people who sought to bring him down by embarrassing him in this way are not going to get any less of a conservative in his appointed replacement.
2007-09-01 10:45:52
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answered by Belle 5
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answered by Anonymous
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I think if he was gay and into picking up strangers, some other gay stranger would have outed him to the tabloids for money.
Personally, it sounds like he was fighting it from the start. If the only thing there was to go on is gestures, and no verbal commitment or anything -- we are asking a lot.
I hope I never run out of TP in a ladies room -- I would hate to have someone think I was trying to have lesbian sex.
2007-08-30 15:30:29
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answered by mj69catz 6
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Well, I believe in the Law of Attraction. That what you put in your mind constantly is what you attract. So all these pious republicans have been going on about perverts and gays for so long (mind you, while not getting actual important work done) and they have put so much energy into the subject that now they are reaping what they have sown. Anybody without exception that have I have ever known or heard of, who makes it a point to make a big deal out of gayness, is in fact, gay themselves, whether they are acting on it or not. So yeah, I totally believe he was soliciting sex in the bathroom. Which I find gross, but I actually wouldn't care about it at all if republicans didn't make such a big deal out of who is buggering who.
2007-08-28 15:50:22
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answered by CB 7
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