Polygamy & Gay marriage?

Question

Do you think that marriage laws should include things like polygamy and gay marriage? Why or why not?

And if not, what business do you think you have to meddle in the love lives of consenting adults? If the roles were reversed would you really like someone being able to remove your rights just because they didn't like it?

If you can't tell already, I do not believe the government should have any say in the partnerships and marriage laws of people. As for the people who are simply against it, what right should they have to remove the rights of others?

I am not comparing polygamy and gay marriage in any way, these are just two examples of things that are considered "unlawful" by people who should have no business in them in the first place. Also, I am only including CONSENTING adults. So none of the "why can't I marry my dog!?" or any of the other ridiculous stuff people come up with.. Like dogs have a legal standing in the first place.

How can someone decide for themselves when other people can LEGALLY remove their rights to be happy with what they prefer just because they personally dislike it?

Clearly people have no concept of their own humanity. Comparing people who just wish to be happy with their preferences to animals is worse than sickening.

Answer 1

A part of me would say no to polygamy, while all of me would say yes to gay marriage.

The thing that somewhat bothers me about polygamy is the idea of sharing a husband with someone else, but the truth is that this fear is similar to a fear of marrying someone who wants to live in the country while you want to live in the city.

So it would be selfish of me to say that polygamy should be banned, as it would for me to say the gay marriage should be banned.

It seems terrible to put someone else's love in the terms of the law (although there are somethings that make more sense, like an age of consent for marriage and sex). Most of the people who are against gay marriage might say that, "If gay marriage was legal you and I might never have been born." That answer hasn't been very thoroughly thought through. The truth is that there are millions of ways you couldn't have been born, and the fact that two people who aren't your parents fall in love, get married, maybe even adopt a child in need of a home will have nothing to do with it.

It won't ruin the planet if we pass a law allowing polygamy and gay marriage, the population won't suddenly drop (and no offence, but maybe it should...) and God won't kill those who signed the bill.

This was a very refreshing question to answer and your views are intelligent (which is a biased opinion, quite frankly, but I'm still going with it.)

Answer 2

I think gay marriage should be included but I'm iffy about the polygamy. The reason is because there are men out there that have married mulitpule women (without the women knowing it) and don't stay with any of them. There would have to be a lot more laws about this like add a clause that both the husband and the first wife mush marry the other women. But if you allow a man to have mulitple wives you would have to allow a woman to have mulitple husbands.... It would get very confusing.... Here's an ex. Man A marries woman B. Woman B goes and marries man C who is already married to woman D.
It would all be a mess. Plus with all the new laws that would have to be written and we have a hard enough time getting laws passes that we NEED and not just what some people WANT.

Answer 3

I believe the government has absolutely no right to get involved in the relationships of consenting adults. Period. The fact that you find something immoral or offensive does not give you the right to tell others they can't do it.

I often find myself just as offended by the hypocrisy of people who claim something like homosexuality is against God, but they do other things without a second thought. I was having this very conversation the other day with an 18 year-old woman who is unwed an pregnant, Catholic, and was going on about how homosexuals made her sick. When she started bringing religion into the discussion, I asked her what her religion had to say about unwed mothers and she shut up pretty quick.

I'll add that I think this also applies to things like prostitution. But I am torn about the issue of drug use because this crosses into the arena of public safety rather than just personal freedom.

Answer 4

Elvlayarvvi,
Nooo. This nation was founded by pilgrims that believed just the opposite. These were people that deeply believed that the church was wrong. These people were VARY much apposed to the established dogma, and the established interruption of scriptures, of there day. They had basically been run out of multiple nations and had come to this continent to escape religious persecution. These people did not blindly believe any more back then than Ms. Jupiter or I believe the biblical inscriptions of the sex-police today.
IF two people truly LOVE each other and wish to commit to each other before God her self, and in the eyes of the state, then who appointed you to say I cant love my girlfriend?
The last I looked there was NO law on the books of this nation stating that the government has any right to tell me who to love. [Although some states are now trying to tell us who we can wed.]
The problem with that idea is that YOU and G-dub-ya as the sex police will now have to figure out who the XXY hermaphrodites, XY androgen insensitive females, XX/XY chromosomal mosaics, the male-to-females, the females-to-males, and all the other genders and sexes, can marry as they are neither male nor female.
PennyAnn

Answer 5

It makes me a bit ill that so much hate is heaped on gays in the name of god.
There is on small passage that even addresses homosexuality and if it were not that it was a common thing among Romans that reference would not be there.
On the other hand there are chapters and chapters on caring for the poor.

I think this world would be far better off without the subscription to feudal religious practices from all quarters.
Attempting to control a society using a book full of metaphor and allegory is no way to run a government.
What does that have to do with this question?
Let people marry anyone they want as long as they do not try to force their belief on me.

It is to god to judge not the self appointed.
Unfortunately we are dealing with the religions of hate instead of the religions of love and worship.

Answer 6

I am against polygamist marriages especially after watching "Big Love" , with Bill Paxton , when you marry somebody it should be 1 person to another not 1 man and 3 or 5 or 10 wives and if it be the case then the wive's should be allowed to have more then 1 husband hey you wanna share the love share it fairly.Dont forget that 87% of the polygamist marriages involve girls as young as 10 being promised to a man who is old enough to be their great grandfather and marry at age 16.WRONG no way my girls are marrying a dirty ole man at age 16 and yes I do have a 16 year old daughter.

As for Gay marriages be it man / man , woman /woman , I am all for it and think the churches and government should keep their big fat money hungry noses out of it , when they can keep the economy fair and pay fair for everyone no matter their job then they can say who can marry who.

I mean speaking from an Australian's point of view our prime minister has no right claiming $333,000 per year just for sucken up the American presidents buttocks.

Each to their own let them be and quit interferring but then hey they are Big Brother arent they out to protect the world.

Answer 7

i agree with you, this is one of the issues which annoys me the most...why do people have to meddle with issues that have nothing to do with them? i have so many friends who are gay, and someones sexuality should be as of little concern to spectators as that persons favorite color or food is. people should not care about other peoples personal lives and sexual preferences and concentrate on their own. being against same sex marriage is just another stupid example of discrimination (for NO reason)

as for the marriage laws, its such a ridiculous thing that a gay couple cannot marry, i am sure that in the future, when gay couples are allowed to marry (no matter what state or country they live in) people will look back and think upon the era of 'no same sex marriage' and compare it to other bizarre beliefs, such as woman not being allowed to work.
in the time we live in, its a medieval way of thinking, and the government needs to recognize that times are changing, what is honestly so bad about two woman or men being in love and getting married. and yes i understand that some people are concerned about the children these couples may adopt or conceive through scientific means...but honestly, there have been children I've known who have been through much much worse things than two same sex parents. they've turned out fine.

so in answer to parts of your question (im not sure of polygamy, as this question is usually more religious) no, i do not think there should ever be laws against gay marriage.

Answer 8

Jupiter. I think many would agree with you that your personal choice, as mine or anyone else's, of no concern of others. The problem, as I offered in some answers lately, knowing well that the same would not be so warmly received by many, that leadership expressess arrogance to demand authority to determine for you what they discern as proper or even your right. As if an adult, even teen for that matter, need someone to dictate what feelings/desires are normal, what are abnormal, or which should be pursued or acknowledged. Most such individuals as you know have yet offered any conclusive finding for "normal", except when admitting that somethings are natural for some, not necessarily natural for others.

The sad reality endures, that you may enjoy who or what you want, most likely whereas no abuse is evident, but government shall likely neither authorize nor recognize validity of the same. With marriage, the government simply states it will not recognize validity of what they regard as "legally recognized" unions outside their rulings/determination. I agree wholeheartedly it's not their place to be involved in business of adjucation at matters of the heart. But this is what happens whereas others of limited understanding place such excess power in the hands of anyone with some specific agenda in mind.

Truthfully, given extent of suffering and abuse I have undergone, which most likely most of you shall never have to confront, I've about given up on these matters. I don't enjoy the pain and suffering, and it avails no benefit to me anyway.

Maybe those of you with aspiration can find a way to awaken leadership, but I don't know how, appealing to conscience alone doesn't seem to work. I'm simply too exhausted to engage the fight.

Answer 9

Here here!!! I fully agree with you. I have said it here a hundred times already: the government needs to get out of the business of legislating love between adults. I am so sick of the judgmental crap people throw around on this board, as if they expect everyone in the world to follow their narrow mindset of morality... usually religious in nature. I got news for them, some of the most godly men of the Bible were polygamists. People in this country have GOT to get into their thick heads that we do not have the right to order other people to follow our own personal morals. You get a star, dear. :-)

Answer 10

State granted legal marriage is not a right. Just like driving, or practicing law aren't a right. You have to meet certain qualifications and restrictions.

The law has decided to draw the marriage-line qualifications as they are now.