To those who want government health care..?

Question

Do you think it will end up like social security?
>> Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
>> Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
>> 1.) That participation in the Program would be
>> completely voluntary,
>> 2.) That the participants would only have to pay
>> 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
>> incomes into the Program,
>> 3.) That the money the participants elected to put
>> into the Program would be deductible from
>> their income for tax purposes each year,
>> 4.) That the money the participants put into the
>> independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
>> General operating fund, and therefore, would
>> only be used to fund the Social Security
>> Retirement Program, and no other
>> Government program, and,
>> 5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
>> would never be taxed as income.
>>

The list above is how Social Security started out....and I believe government health care will be worse.

So WHAT???....SS is a disaster that is going broke and you say SO WHAT??...ever notice how much ss taxes you pay??....wouldn't it be better if YOU could save that money for your retirement??..health care would be FAR worse

pink angle...how about this...you give YOUR healthcare needs to the government....and let those who want to keep it private keep it private....would that be ok with you??.....just remember that you wanted that when you have to wait for weeks or months to get medical attention or even life saving surgery....I use SS as an example of government promises and how they ultimately will degrade and change their promises.....good luck.

Answer 1

Dude what is your problem? I love the idea of waiting in line for surgeries, paying much more taxes, and degrading the quality of healthcare. I have no wish to have my choice of doctors or networks. In fact, when I go to the hospital, I want to see dehumanized govt employees there to treat me because quite frankly, I dont get enough of them at the DMV.

Thats the kind of thing most Americans desire. God bless Hillary and the liberals leading the charge for what Im sure would be a great step forward for America. God bless the United States of Europe. (I mean America)

Answer 2

Massachusetts introduced its own effort toward mandatory universal coverage which provides another unfortunate example of the failure of government-paid health care.

Massachusetts passed health care initiative entitled "Commonwealth Care" that provided state-subsidized coverage and *required* all residents to purchase insurance. State residents who fail to obtain insurance are "penalized" with additional state taxes. Mass also required employers to either pay for health insurance or cough up a hefty tax penalty for each employee that they cannot cover--(I believe this was approximately 14.5%).

Now primary care providers are now turning away patients, and waiting times have lengthened because doctors receive below-market payments along with an influx of new patients. So, Massachusetts bureaucrats are finally learning that when government "social planners" artificially increase demand and reduce supply via price controls and rationing, shortages and inferior quality become the norm.

Answer 3

Anyone who has REALLY dealt with Medicare knows that the gov't shouldn't be in charge of everyone's healthcare. They can't get that system right either.
But, controls on what's going on in insurance needs checked.
Stop letting non medically trained business educated people decide the cost of something over the need. Put a cap on lawsuits and toss frivilous ones out. Make the consumer responsible for keeping up their health or raise their rates not everyones. Offer deductions for gym memeberships that are used, normal weighing people, and non smokers. As a nurse these things do in fact relate to your health.
If the corprate greed needs to be leashed then so be it. But gov't healthcare. Now there's a joke.

Answer 4

The first step the Democrats will do is to make Health Insurance mandatory and you will have no choice but to participate in the government plan. That one point, no choice, is enough to make me against it. It seems the Democrats are all about choice as long as you agree with them but you do not get a choice if you are on the other side of the argument.

Answer 5

Well, all we have to do is look at other nations with government funded health care. I mean, do we really want the government making our medical decisions? People in Canada come into the U.S. for surgery because they don't want to wait 3-6 months. How about Finland? You know that if liberals get their way that the government will end up paying for everything. Finland has fantastic welfare and medical benefits and with that came a massive immigration of poor people from other nations to milk off Finland. Really, who wants their taxes to be 60% to pay for all these government programs? Why can't families be responsible and get a high deductible catastrophic health plan to prevent financial ruin? Why buy $150 tennis shoes instead? When are people going to be accountable for themselves?

Answer 6

So what? FDR was our greatest president ever.

For the record, i don't want "government healthcare" I would like to see a plan implemented with a third party managing it that ISN'T the gov't. Surely it is obvious that we have a problem with health care/insurance in this country. Why do people like you always bring up SS as an example to shoot down the idea of universal healthcare?

EDIT -SO WHAT? WHAT does SS have to do with people having health insurance? It's just like I said, people like you bring up SS everytime someone brings up universal healthcare.

Answer 7

Social security was NOT originally meant to be what it is today. It was meant to help relieve people suffering from the results of the Great Depression. That was all. Obviously it's changed since.

I think everyone should have access to health care, but socialized health care is not the way to go.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

You forget to mention about the rationing that's happening in Canada.