If someone is REALLY "born gay",where is the proof?

Question

Also,did you realize that there have been IDENTICAL twins born,when they grow up one deicides to be a sodomite,the other makes the right choice and is straight.

Answer 1

Well, let's question the over 1500 gay animals that you state "choose" their sexuality. And least we forget the hormone connections, finger length study, neurological studies, and everything else related to testosterone and estrogen.

Answer 2

Identical twins can have slightly differing sections of DNA. While the majority of it is the same, there are minor differences, I can assure you. Or at the very least, the most common difference is the fingerprints, which is determined in the uterus, so perhaps this is where sexuality is determined.

Second, with children being raised in so many different environments and still ending up gay, how could it be considered environmental or how a person is raised? Identical twins are raised in essentially the same environment, to use your argument against you. Why in the world would children who are raised in an extreme fundamentalist Christian household -choose- to be gay and be rejected by the entire family?

This isn't a choice for those people, obviously being true to themselves is more important than their family. They wouldn't just randomly choose that...you can't help who you feel naturally attracted to. That's common sense. There is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior, remember that.

And by the way, homosexual and sodomite are NOT interchangeable. Surely be a little less ignorant in your question next time.

Answer 3

I am straight and have plenty of gay friends who are disliked just because of their orientation, and that enrages me. Being gay is not a choice, therefore one cannot decide to become straight. Neither being straight nor being gay is wrong or abnormal. If people who were gay, the minority, were abnormal, then obese people would not be normal either. If there was a normal, both gay and straight would be normal, not the majority of people, who are straight. It is obvious that the person who asked this question is overweight and feels bad about herself. In order for her to make herself feel better, she spends her time attacking gay people so that the target can be on them and off of her. It is a pathetic thing that many people do, and she should get some help with her issues and stop ostracizing gay people. I may sound disrespectful, but in order to gain respect, you need to give it.

Answer 4

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I dont think that it is really helpful or constructive to refer to gays as 'sodomites'... your question shows that you have an anti-gay agender and are homophobic (against Yahoo! Answers code of conduct)...

Why you should need proof for this question, is beyond my understanding but, to help you to further your understanding about Gay people (because you obviously care very much for your fellow human beings to take such an interest) then let me try to answer your question...

we all have choices about the actions that we take, but we do NOT have choices in our biological make up...

it might be helpful to try looking at it this way:

lets assume for a moment that you are straight... if you were born straight then did you get a choice in being born straight? the answer is no!... and because you are not sexually attracted to other men, then this means that you would probably chose a straight life-style... not much point in chosing a gay life-style if you are straight!

but it sounds like it is possible that you were born gay or bisexual?
maybe you are sexually attracted to other men or to both men and women but you chose to live a straight life-style? This is entirely your choice and i wouldn't dream of interfering with your choices.

If you say, 'no, i was definately born straight'... then does that answer your question?

because gay people might say 'i was definately born gay'

But at the end of the day, it is up to gay people themselves whether they chose to lead a gay life-style or not... it is not up to you do decide for them and it will never be up to you...

May i suggest that you look more closely at your own life before you start judging others?

I think that you might mistakenly think of yourself a Christian... so, as Jesus said: Before you try to remove the splinter from someone else's eye, first take the plank out of your own eye!

if you try talking to gay people in a friendly way, then you might find that they all have a story to tell that might answer all of your questions...

feel free to email me if you'd like any further assistance in your understanding of life

Answer 5

I would suggest there is a genetic link, however, it does not show up in every offspring of a parent carrier. I am gay. I am the oldest of nine siblings. My youngest sibling is gay too. It appears in our family that there were two great aunts who were gay and it is probable that one uncle was gay. All I can say is that I did not choose to be gay. My sister did not choose to be gay. I knew of my interest in the opposite sex as exploratory when I was six or so. But by 11 I clearly had interest in the boy next door than his sister who had been my exploratory interest earlier. I believe there are factors of the enviromment which have an effect on the genetic, but I suspect there has to be a genetic weakness for the environment to have any effect. If anyone tells you that a person chooses to be gay or straight, they are mistaken. One can choose to act on the condition, but does not choose the condition. My sister is in a lover relationship with another woman. I on the other hand married and have fathered children. So one does not choose to be gay or straight, but one can choose how one lives with what one is given.

Answer 6

First, identical twins only share identical DNA - there are more factors than that which shape prenatal development, most of which are at best only vaguely understood and which can effect even identical twins differently. Various hormonal balances are among these factors, and are thought to be among the significant (by by no means sole) influences in prenatal brain development.

Second, the rhetoric of "choice" with regards to human sexuality is largely one of semantics. Those who claim that orientationi s a matter of "choice" are typically defining it exclusively with regards to behavior. In this mindset, one is "gay" only if one actually has romantic/sexual relationships with people of the same gender.

Because people claiming this position generally regard same gender relationships to be by definition inherently disordered, they are portrayed as being similar to the difference between the active alcoholic vs. the person who has a latent tendency towards alcoholism but who does not drink.

Those who do not subscribe to the rhetoric of "choice" with regareds to orientation generally regard it as a matter of inherent personality traits. Whether one is currently (or has ever been) romantically or sexually involved with anyone is irrelevant - orientation is instead defined as a matter of ability. One's orientation is the basic paramaters of who one might potentially be capable of forming romantic/sexual bonds with. This inherent ability is inborn.

Answer 7

Wow...Victor must be trolling this section...

The trouble with "gay genes" is that science never proves anything true. Correct scientific investigation only eliminates all possibilities until only the truth remains. Our limited scope assumes we are wise enough to deduce all possibilities and then devise ways to test for them in order to arrive at that conclusion. This is, of course, absolute hubris.

When I was a graduate student, we studied abiotic stress response in grapes. Just before I left, another researcher discovered that grapes respond to TOUCH by eliciting gene induction/reduction. So, it could no longer be definitely said that all genes we identified as being abiotic stress responsive were elicited by the stresses and NOT by the touch which was necessitated in harvesting tissue.

Genetics is much more complicated than anyone thinks. Yes, we have only so many loci, but their distance, and their interactions create an entire new dimension for gene actualization.

Answer 8

Oh honey... Don't get me wrong, ok, I am a Christian... but are you really using the "proof" argument?

Wouldn't it be just as fair for us to say if there is REALLY a God, where is the proof?

It's just something you know, something you feel. I can't prove to you that I was born gay any more than I can prove that I was born right handed. It is just what comes naturally to me.

Answer 9

Where is the proof if someone is born straight?

Answer 10

that twin fact doesn't prove a thing. twins are thier own person. just because they're identical doesn't mean they are the same in every way! in fact, twins are sometimes the opposite of each other, so that doesn't prove anything when you're trying to determine whether or not ppl really are born gay. i won't share my opinion on the born gay/become gay matter right now, i just wanted to say that.

Answer 11

Well....you are a perfect example. In spite of crushing scientific evidence to prove otherwise, you think that Evolution(now arguably a law) is a "fairytale".

All we know is that our gender identity/sexualities are what they are, and just like straight people have a powerful natural urge to mate, so do we.

Also, I don't recall any of us in here signing up for a lecture series; can't you find a better audience?