How can feminism call itself a libertian/leftist movement when half of all feminists are anti-porn?

Question

Explain.

I'm talking mainstream feminism and mainstream feminism calls it libertian.

Answer 1

Feminism does not call itself any type of movement--or, more precisely, it is every type of movement: it encompasses so many different things that pinning it down to one thing can't work. There are conservative feminists, religious feminists--even feminists in the pornography industry itself. That is why, within feminism, there is a lot of fracture into different groups. And it is not true that 1/2 of all feminists are anti-porn. I don't know the statistic on it, but I would think it would be roughly parallel with the general population, given how diverse the movement is. In any case, feminists tend to hold libertarian/leftist beliefs, but the feminist movement does not call itself a libertarian/leftist movement.

Answer 2

When mainstream porn starts teaching men where the clit is and doesn't exploit women, maybe more feminists will be for it.

Most of the porn I have endured with ex-boyfriends have been focused on male pleasure and so was the sex with those particular men. I don't date porn freaks anymore. I also noticed that those same guys were the type to wolf down a meal instead of savoring it. It makes sense to me now.

Anyway, mainstream porn is moving toward gonzo and anal. Neither of which is "feminist", in my opinion. If I want to have anal sensations, I'll take a laxative, thank you very much.

Says something about the way our culture is going.

Answer 3

Because that which passes itself off as so-called feminism these days isn't interested in liberty or equality. Contemporary feminism is interested in making the unproven assertion that women are morally better than men and therefore qualified to tell everyone else how to run their lives. Whoever hasn't noticed this has been fast asleep since about the middle of the 1980s.

Answer 4

lol. How did libertarian / leftist political movement ended up in the same pile of non-sense with porn? What does one has to do with another? How many feminists do you know personally to be able to judge them? Why not find out what feminism is and what it represents first? That was one ignorant stereotype after another.

Answer 5

I'm a feminist, a liberal and I like my porn hardcore as long as it doesn't advocate violence against the woman or man. And, as long as it is concensual. I don't know what feminists you are talking to but most of the contemporary feminist movement moved out of the strictures of the 1st and 2nd wave of feminism long ago. 3rd wave feminism doesn't shun pornography, it looks at it from another perspective and that is of desire and not denying our bodies pleasure. I think feminism is best when fighting for equal rights, equality and respect for women and their own choices in life. And, that includes the rights of women to choose porn as a profession or just to watch porn. It all also does best to try to call attention to violence against women in society. Most porn is not about violence. And, aren't men in porn being exploited as well? I mean it does take 2 to tango doesn't it? Afterall, we all like to get our freak desires on now and then no matter if we are male or female don't we?

Answer 6

Mainstream feminism is against equality and freedom, instead striving for female domination and male subordination, which are definitely not libertarian ideals. This is counter to the definition of feminism, as given by Rebel, but it is evident from the actions and hate speech that is usually seen from the "feminist" activists, as well as from the legislation that they tend to lobby for. They mask this fascism as a fight for the rights of females in a male dominated society, which may have been true in the 1950's, but is far from true today. If they truly wanted equality for all, they would be directing their energies into fighting against the Christian Dominion movement, which truly is into the subservience of woman.

Answer 7

I am a humanist, therefore a feminist, I don't mind watching adult porn on occasion for some spice. I really think freedom to do what one chooses regardless of ones belief system is the key to each individuals happiness. One can be a feminist or a nun or a priest and still enjoy a little hard core every once in awhile. It's a human thing.

Answer 8

because the feminist perspective of anti-porn is not the same as the right wing view of porn.

Anti-porn feminists believe pornography exploits women and reinforces the patriarchy.

Anti-porn right wingers believe pornography threatens the christian "purity" of society

big diff.

I personally do not understand how a woman can approve of porn and consider herself a feminist, but to each her own i guess.

My question always is for those who consider it a free-speech expression, Why then are smut films illegal? are they not ALSO expression? Because someone is being harmed? from my perspective this is true of regular porn.

Answer 9

Where are you getting your statistics from? I don't know any liberal feminists who are anti-porn. All the anti-porn women I know are conservative and believe that women should be submissive to men (i.e. their husbands), and that porn is sinful.

If porn shows women in a demeaning manner, portraying rape or subversion in a positive light, then yes, of course feminists disapprove of that! But that's different from porn in general.

Answer 10

There are many different theologies regarding "feminism", and the libertarians/leftists are only one facet. They don't represent the entire group. Personally, I believe in equality and according to that, I am defined as a feminist. I will not label myself further by calling myself a "leftist" or "libertarian" or a conservative or a liberal, etc...my beliefs are my own, and they do not all fit into one category or another. Human beings (and their beliefs) are far too complex to fit just one category. One-category thinking is, in my opinion, too narrow- it doesn't allow for personal variances. I tend to want to think for myself. Labels are too constrictive.