Why can't libs see that protesting the Vietnam War not only demoralized our troops moral?

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but cost us defeat...and they are doing it again...

Much has been made about President Bush's recent comments comparing the known fallout in SE Asia after our precipitous withdrawal from the Vietnam War – genocide in Cambodia, re-education camps and mass exodus from South Vietnam. And yet defeatists continue to use the Vietnam War as their case for comparison and the foundation for their call for immediate withdrawal.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMcBride/2007/08/25/korea,_vietnam,_and_iraq

chi guy...what do you call spitting on our troops as they got off the plane from nam?..the protests??..the draft card burning??...in your world that didn't demoralize??

wkevinc..so you really think that the enemy is winning going toe to toe with our military??....NOT!!...the ONLY hope for victory for the enemy is a POLITICAL one, which they know they can obtain if they just stay the course thanks to people like you.

LeAnn...yes it is sad..many in this country are spoiled and self centered and think it somehow is standing up for something when they trash this country...they have no idea what would happen if they did the same thing in some OTHER countries...yet they hate THIS country...amazing.

telwitit...I lived through that erra too, and even though I lived in the country, I DID see flag burnings, protests...I've lost very close people in that war and I agree it was a terrible war but you DON'T TREAT YOUR MILITARY THAT WAY!!...and the same ones who turned the political tide against a "win" in nam are the same ones who are turning the political tide against "win" in Iraq and THAT IS DISGUSTING!!

Deejay....our troops do everything possible to make sure civilians are never targeted which makes it harder to fight and probably has cost us military lives, and people like you just keep repeating the lie that they are tourturing and stealing....repeat it enough times and the weak minded and lazy start to believe it...which one are you?...the one repeating what you know to be a lie??...or one of the weak minded and lazy who believe the lie??

anoldmick...no profile...why is it that those who use the tired montra of "why are you fighting" never use a profile ...you were in Nam??...I see you also work with children who were victums of abuse...what else are you claiming to have done??...why don't you stop lying and support our troops for a change??..why don't you read Marinwifes answer and think about what you are doing every time you bravely voice oposition to our troops..

Answer 1

This is indeed sad. When our troops see these protests, they don't see the want for peace, they see people not supporting them, protesting them.

In Iraq, do we remember Fallujah circa 2004? It was a hotbed of terrorist activity. The citizens were given advance warning to leave the city, and anyone who remained would be considered the enemy. This was called Operation Phantom Fury. Today, you don't hear of the violence in Fallujah, because our Soldiers and Marines have made it safer for the residents. There are great strides being made in Iraq, but people only believe what the media shows, which isn't much.

Answer 2

The Vietnam protests stand for the proposition that we do not have the will to militarily occupy a foreign country under fire, for any period of time.

Americans like their country and do not want to live their lives in a foreign land. That is why we make such bad imperialists. We will only support a war that we can win quickly and then leave.

Bush knew this going in. Clinton wisely abandoned Somalia fast enough when it became apparent that we could not win that war quickly.

There is a big difference between the 2000s and the 1960s. We were asking draftees to risk their lives to support a corrupt dictatorship.
Things like racial tensions, higher voting age and domestic suppression of civil liberties dichotomized the population into violent pro- and anti-government factions. This made the government and especially the military an obvious target for the antis. Fortunately, you don't see Americans spitting at troops and throwing rocks at policemen now, do you?

Answer 3

Combine sanctimony and willful obduracy and you have a war protester.

I don't remember the Serbs as having attacked the USS Cole, or the WTC in '93, or being responsible for all the other acts of terrorism against the United States during the '90s, yet how many people protested Clinton's decision to bomb the Serbian people up and down the Danube for seventy eight days and nights?

This is America, and right or wrong an American should stand by those who guarantee our freedom--the United States Military.

Answer 4

I was one of those American soldiers in Viet Nam, and I can tell you that far from demoralizing us, the anti-war protesters in the U.S. gave us hope. And have you forgotten - if ever you knew - that a great many of those protesters were themselves veterans of that very war? They - we - were the "Vietnam Veterans Against The War".
We protesters - veterans and our supporters - eventually won and got our troops out of Viet Nam. We never had any business there in the first place, nor do we have any business making war on the Iraqi people now.
How long have you served in Iraq? If you support the war, join the Army and volunteer to go to the sandbox. Put your butt where you mouth is - something the cowardly little freak now inhabiting the White House didn't do during the Viet Nam war...

Answer 5

US citizens protesting something they don't understand. This is not about leting commies into US this is about stopping further attacks on US soil. How many 9/11's will it take for you to send back those soldiers to do what they should have done in the first place. When you see milliions of islamic muslims on your doorstep - your going to kick yourself for not supporting the troops in Iraq -and yes it is all connected- when US pulls out of Iraq - then terrorist know that they can defeat America too.

Answer 6

Well if it is like Vietnam all this demoralization would still leave another six years for the troop surge to take effect.

There are defeatists and there are realists. There are also people who would rather die than admit they're wrong. Bush will never admit defeat. He can't. At this point if he did it would leave a horrible record in the history books. If he continues he still has a chance...beware the cornered animal. Seriously, at this point how could you possibly expect an honest opinion of the war from him?

Answer 7

Where do you get this kind of crap? I never got spat on and never saw a flag burning and all we hear is that the troops were treated badly. While those incidents did occur they were rare and I never saw anything like that! Most of that's bull crap and I know it because I lived in that era and my buddies were killed in that war. 70 percent of Americans wanted the war in Viet Nam ended.
President Nixen prolonged that war with Paris peace talks that included Henry Kissinger. The war was further aggravated and prolonged when President Nixen gave the go ahead to bomb Cambodia.
The war was a terrible idea and kept getting bigger and the incident that DIDN'T happen at the Gulf of Tonkin is what President Johnson based his reasons for escalation of the war. MacNamara was the Secty of Defense and a holdever Republican and he is the one who agreed with the planners at the Pentagon to fabricate the lie about the Gulf of Tonkin.
See? It's those dam Republicans every time!
Thanks

Answer 8

You are sure a slow learner! Try reading a few of the histories of the Vietnam War. You will find that the vast majority tell the same question, "Superpower is beaten by its own folly!" Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong reason and Wrong out come, all go together!!!!!
Stop dreaming your macho ideas and get over the lose. Besides, you are looking at another lose that was your idea this time!
It hurts I know, but Wars do hurt everyone!

Answer 9

The protests did demoralize and anger the troops in Viet Nam - I know this from personal experience, I am a Viet Nam veteran, 1968-69.
And on occasion, the "baby killers" and "war mongers" did get spit on upon returning to the States.
The liberals in this country try their damnedest to equate these two wars because they want to draw the parallel between our defeat in Viet Nam to their preconceived idea that we cannot win in Iraq either. They are totally invested in a policy of defeat. They have no problem with throwing the people who have supported us under the bus - once again - and to hell with any commitments we have made to these people.
Sad, isn't it?

Answer 10

I dont know much about the history of libs, but from what I gather from Rush and other sources, it hasnt changed. They are anti-military and are willing to appease anyone if it means slavery or terrorism to do so.