That is not true. People who do not believe in a deity can still have a moral code, it just has a different basis. I am an atheist, and I take a more utilitarian approach to morals. The greatest evil is suffering, and the greatest good is happiness, and lessening the former and boosting the latter as much as possible is my basis for living.
Many could argue that this is just as valid a moral code as living by a list of rules that one must stick to feverishly in order to avoid a divine figure smiting you.
2007-08-25 13:30:10
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answer #1
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answered by Pip 5
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Some day, we are going to find out for sure who is right (the day we die). And the funny thing about the creation/evolution debate is, if the creationists are wrong, it doesn't matter or make any difference. But, if the evolutionists are wrong, it makes all the difference in the world. As the saying goes: If you are living as if there is no hell, you had better be right.
You make a good point. If God does not exist and we are here as a blind cosmic accident, then there is no such thing as right and wrong. It would be no more wrong for the innocent to suffer than for the ice to melt or the sun to burn. If there is no God, then there is no Supreme Being to which we must give an account—no Judgment Day, no heaven or hell. If this is just a great cosmic accident, then there is no such thing as morality (there is no right or wrong, no good or evil). We should just live by the saying, “Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.”
I also wonder, if they truly believe this is just a great cosmic accident and when you die there is nothing and nothing mattered, then why do they fight and argue so hard against creationism/ID? What are they so worried and upset about? Why spend so much of their time trying to persuade others and themselves that it's not right? If there is no meaning to life, why would you care if people are deluded? I think there is something else... deep down in their hearts.
2007-08-29 11:01:33
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answered by Questioner 7
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There are moral codes. Anyone can invent or adopt a moral code at any time and they do. Take Pip with her utilitarian approach. But there is no obligation to follow that approach or any other approach. So she can change it at will without being accountable to anyone. Undoubtedly she chooses that because it makes her feel good about herself.
And this being good for good's sake is a real joke. How could that possibly have come about? Again, it's self serving self praise. How good it must feel to say I'm inherently good. Blatant feel-goodism.
2007-08-25 14:43:03
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answered by Matthew T 7
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You have the wrong idea about atheists. We're good for good's sake and don't need the bribe of heaven or threat of hell to be so.
We atheists are nothing like what the church leaders are fond of charicaturing us as. We are freethinking individuals who are able to see the Big Picture without the blinders of religion. We do not live in despair, quite the contrary; freethought is incredibly refreshing, liberating, and empowering. We are not nihilists, but lovers of life who see it as all the more precious because there's no eternal afterlife. We do not need the bribe of heaven or the threat of hell to be good people, we believe in being good for its own sake. Through science and reason, we know more about the true nature of the world we live in than your religion could ever hope to offer.
The fear of death is a natural thing, which is why you need to think hard about living your life for the moment. We are not the enemy of christians and other theists. Our quarrel is with irrationality, wishful thinking, superstitions, intellectual dishonesty, and all other forms of thinking that keep mankind mired in darkness, ignorance and hate. Sometimes i do get depressed over our utter death and annihilation, but it just renews my zest to make the most of this life
2007-08-25 14:03:11
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answered by Its not me Its u 7
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That's right. It just happened. You can suffer under your moral judgments and then punish and kill others, but that is a choice I'll leave to you. That making you no better than the original people who caused the situation.
2007-08-25 15:05:12
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answered by guru 7
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Good point.
In a godless universe morality is not only improbable, its absurd. Without a preestablished moral code, humanity only has its self to determine what is right or wrong. Which leaves everything subjective to everyone's different opinions. One might say murder is wrong, while another calls it natural selection. Its just nature taking its course.
With mankind's endless pursuit of godlessness, morality will soon be obsolete.
2007-08-25 14:04:50
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answered by cosmicweasle 2
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Actually you are right about Evolution. Notice how they "say" it's fact, but there's also evidence that says otherwise, and this comes from people who were Athiest themselves.
(Oh, make the connection: Most people who are Athiest are also evolutionists.)
And again, compare the countries laws to the basic ten commandments. So, with that in mind, Athiests still follow God given morals.
2007-08-25 13:57:57
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answered by Da Mick 5
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Where do you GET this stuff? First of all, Evolution is NOT A THEORY... if is REAL... it is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVABLE... and it hasn't been a 'theory' in OVER 100 YEARS... The only people who keep insisting on calling it a "theory" are the born agains who don't know squat about SCIENCE and refuse to believe hard, scientific proof.
Secondly, the is NOTHING in the SCIENCE of EVOLUTION about heaven or hell... I don't know where you got that, but you are trying to add your own opinion to a scientific discussion and... although you are welcome to your opions, you are NOT welcome to your alleged 'facts' because they are WRONG.
2007-08-25 13:31:44
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answered by Anonymous
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What on earth does evolution have to do with heaven or hell?
2007-08-29 05:46:19
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answered by Anonymous
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