Taiwan and China?

Question

are you in favor that taiwan should be part of china? why?

Answer 1

If the Taiwanese people were in favor of Taiwan becoming part of China, then it would be acceptable.

I can assure you that they are not.

Taiwan's fate seems to be always in the hands of other, more powerful countries. Taiwan has the misfortune of being situated in a crucial strategic location.
That is what this whole thing is really all about.
If China wants to be a superpower and project her power into the Pacific, then Taiwan is the key. Taiwan is so located that if it were China's enemies hands, then it will be easy to cut off supply lines. Taiwan is the keystone in the ring that keeps China contained.
China rants and raves a bunch of delusional nonsense about how Taiwan must return to the sacred motherland blah blah blah. And the Chinese people happily eat up the propaganda just as they've been brainwashed to do.
The fact of the matter is that China has NO CLAIM to Taiwan WHATSOEVER.

So who does have a legal claim to Taiwan?

First let's take a look at some true Taiwan history.
Unlike what the Chinese would like the world to believe,Taiwan is not a traditional part of China from time immemorial. The indigenous people of Taiwan are not Chinese at all. They are austronesian.
When the Dutch arrived in 1624, there were no Chinese people in Taiwan at all. The Dutch stayed until 1662 when the Chinese pirate/general Koxinga arrived and drove them out. Koxinga was a Ming Dynasty loyalist general and wanted to use Taiwan as a staging base for an invasion to drive out the new Ching Dynasty rulers. He didn't succeed, but from then on, The Ching rulers had a phobia about Taiwan as a staging ground for rebellion. So they reluctantly decided to manage the coastal areas. They didn't let women go over, only men. (they were afraid that if there were a permanent Chinese population on Taiwan that they may stage a rebellion.)
And so Taiwan was considered by the Chinese to be a frontier outside of the empire to be kept neutralized.
In the late 19th century, since the Chinese didn't seem interested in Taiwan, the Japanese began to be interested in annexing it. So to preempt them, the Chinese made Taiwan a province in 1887.
In 1895 the Japanese defeated the Chinese in the Sino-Japanese War, and in the Treaty of Shimonoseki, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity. That means FOREVER. Taiwan was a province of Imperial China for a total of only eight years. (Not "always", as the ROC and the PRC claim.)
A signed, ratified internationally treaty is the highest law of the land, on an equal level with the constitution itself.
From 1895 Taiwan was fully legal, internationally recognized Japanese territory.
In WW2, when the Americans defeated the Japanese in 1945, Taiwan became occupied territory (still legally Japanese territory). The Americans were unwise enough to delegate the acceptance of the surrender of Japanese troops on Taiwan to the ROC Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek. He moved right in like he owned the place even though they were simply acting on the behalf of the principal occupier, the USA. The ROC called this "Taiwan Retrocession Day" (they still do). It was certainly not a retrocession, merely a belligerent occupation. (retrocession means the return of something which was ceded previously) The ROC proceeded to naturalize the Taiwanese people en masse, which is a war crime. They then murdered 30,000 Taiwanese in the 2-28 massacre. (this makes the Tiananmen square incident look tame indeed!)

The treaty (remember how important treaties are?) which determines Taiwan's present status is the San Francisco Peace Treaty of 1951.
In it, Japan cedes Taiwan without naming a recipient. The treaty also clearly names the USA as the principal occupying power. Neither the ROC nor the PRC were a part of the treaty process.
The US didn't want Taiwan for itself for fear of being branded imperialist. The ROC were good lobbyists. The Chiangs were christians and were the darlings of the religious right in America so there was signifigant political pressure for the US to "return" Taiwan to the ROC (no one seemed to care about the rights of the Taiwanese-but then all the leaders and intellectuals who might have lobbied in the US for Taiwanese rights were now either dead or rotting away in ROC prisons). The US didn't want to give it to the ROC (as originally intended) since the ROC had already lost the civil war in China. And they sure as hell weren't going to give something as strategically important as Taiwan to the communists. Therefore starting in 1952, Taiwan has been a cession whose status is undetermined. Its sovereignty is still held in trust by the principal occupier named in the treaty , which is the USA. Untill there is a new treaty to supplant it, the Taiwan cession is in interim status to this day.

Taiwan is not legitimate ROC territory. They don't even say that themselves in their own constitution! The only ROC territory under their control are the islands of Kinmen and Matsu of Fujian Province, China. The rest of China is under PRC control.

Taiwan is a cession under US trusteeship.

The PRC can bluster all they want, they've got no case at all.

The ROC is illegitimate. It is nothing more than a government in exile of CHINA which should have disappeared in 1949. The people of Taiwan are not legitimate ROC citizens.


Until the ROC is dissolved and a government of Taiwan is formed, then Taiwan cannot be an independent country. The worst thing is, the Taiwanese people have been brainwashed by the ROC government since childhood to be unaware of their own history and their rights. Since they are so unaware, they can't possibly take the correct course of action to save themselves.


The USA is responsible for the Taiwan cession but for political expediency it is sweeping it under the rug.
The Taiwanese have suffered all these 62 years because of Americas irresponsibility.

There is one China.

Taiwan is not part of China.

Taiwan should have made an independent country in the 1940's

Answer 2

No I don't think the Mainland Chinese government is doing a good job of leadership for it's people. Honestly I never really understood why they don't just let Taiwan live it's democratic "free" lifestyle. It's almost like an over controlling fatherly/motherly figure which is not good for any child.

Mainland China has used it's media to suppress Taiwan independence for along time. It's abusive and Taiwan has been taking alot of abuse for a while now

Answer 3

Nationalist China (Taiwan) used to symbolize finished China in the United countries until eventually Communist China wrestled it faraway from Taiwan. i don't be responsive to who's to blame for it. Politics throughout the time of the chilly conflict grew to become into distinctive. provided that then Taiwan's prestige has develop into obscure. that is not seen as an self reliant usa or component to Mainland China. in actuality Taiwan by its Nationalist leaders nevertheless declare to the valid rulers of finished China. whether after 60 years, issues has replaced. it extremely is severe time to close the history books enable Taiwan have its very own life. China could desire to comprehend that Taiwan will on no account develop into component to their Communist rule and that i don't think of u.s. could enable such to element to ensue. A Communist Taiwan will pose some protection in stability in the area because it extremely is contemporary in a hectic sea lane.

Answer 4

I am a Chinese, and I think it is best if the relationship between mainland China and Taiwan stay the same, now a days, peace is worth everything to keep.

But this is about politics, and the thing with international politic is, might decides everything. if Taiwan do declare independence, then it is going to suffer a lot.

Answer 5

I believe that Taiwan has historically been part of China, other than 50 years when the island was lost to Japan as spoils of war.

However, history has changed things now. Taiwan is a modern, prosperous democracy. It has everything a country needs to be a country--its own passports, currency, postage stamps, armed forces, etc.

Reuniting with China would be a giant step backwards for Taiwan, in terms of freedom and progress.

I would ideally like to see Taiwan and China reunited. I wish that China could become modern and prosperous and free in a way that they have heretofore failed to accomplish. Communism is on borrowed time, and huge problems beset the nation.

Answer 6

No. The people of Taiwan have developed their own political system and their own culture, and they should be free to choose their own destiny. China does not have more of a claim over Taiwan than the Taiwanese do over their own land.

Answer 7

Yes, I am in favour of Taiwan remaining a province of China. Just as I was in favour of Xiang Gang (Hong Kong) and Aomen (Macau) returning to China. No need for a long historical/political/social/economical explanation here, suffice to say it was part of China before the Japanese occupied it in 1895.

Answer 8

It is clear that the PRC still maintains that "there is only one China in the world" and "Taiwan is an inalienable part of China", however instead of "the Government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legal government of China", the PRC now emphasizes that "both Taiwan and the mainland belong to one and the

Answer 9

You guys don't you think neither Taiwanese nor Chinese people should be allowed to answer this question with their opinions because that'd be really not objective about it?

Answer 10

Seeing the life in Taiwan, they should go independent.
And Hong kong as well. Hong kong is loosing its brilliant light after 1997.

China will have a chaos in near future again. They have been repeating similar coflicts and internal battles in their history.
'What happens twice will happen thrice. '