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First of all, as a male I'm all for gender equality. But why don't feminists realize there's so many double standards as well that are AGAINST men? If a man looks at scantily clad women or makes a remark about a woman, he's considered chauvinist or sexist. But if a woman makes a remark about men or checks out a shirtless man or romantic movie, she's allowed to. If a man remarks about the way a woman looks he's wrong but if a woman makes catty remarks about a man people look it over. If a man hits a woman its wrong but if a woman hits a man its okay. If a man wears a shirt making a remark about women, it's wrong and people look at him as a pig. If a girl wears a shirt about how boys are losers, scum, so forth, it's okay.

Don't get me wrong, I believe a man has no right to put his hands on a woman nor should he make a sexist remark. But I also think women don't have the right to (maliciously) hit men or make/wear such remarks or degrade males either. What's your opinion?

2007-08-24 15:20:26 · 15 answers · asked by Dusk 6 in Social Science Gender Studies

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They do at times and shouldn't.
I don't believe it is right at all for a man who looks at scantily-clad women to be considered chauvenistic, but it's the actions thereafter that I have a bone to pick about.
Why do men want scantily clad women, but then call them all easy whores? It just doesn't make any sense to me because if all women suddenly started wearing clothing that covered them from head to toe, men most likely wouldn't be too happy about that.
But then, why is it up to a man to dress how he feels and then make derogatory comments about women, picking up on the slightest thing she may have done wrong with her dress? That's a terrible double-standard.
If women do this towards men, making derogatory comments, then it's wrong as well , and I don't turn a blind eye towards it, I speak out that it's wrong.
Also, a woman hitting a man is not right, I don't think it's funny in the slightest and it's a practice that's become out of control with some women thinking it's ok to hit a man, people need to speak up more and many feminists do speak out against violence/hatred against men, it's just that we are ignored and all the focus goes on one or two women who are fanatical man-haters.
Double standards come from both genders, and need to be looked at from both genders.

2007-08-24 16:47:57 · answer #1 · answered by Shivers 6 · 5 2

I don't know who you know as far as women go, but mature and well adjusted women don't have a double standard at all.

Well adjusted, mature, intelligent, secure, women know that if they dress in a certain way they'll get a certain reaction. If they want that reaction they'll dress that way. If they don't want that reaction they won't.

Mature, well adjusted, women aren't particularly affected by even the best looking shirtless man. I don't know why these days girls and women pretend they are.

As far as the hitting thing goes, most normal and grown-up people do consider it wrong for a woman to hit a man. There is such a thing as abuse directed toward men. At the same time, there is a difference between a man's punching a woman and a woman's punching a man most of the time. Here, I think any double standard is reasonable.

Anyone who wears a shirt that has remarks about either men or women are just tacky, tacky, tacky. No double standard there, but I can't say I've ever even seen such a shirt. (I wonder where you live or who you hang out with! :))

Degrading other human beings (or animals for that matter) is wrong. No double standard there.

2007-08-24 21:17:10 · answer #2 · answered by WhiteLilac1 6 · 1 4

If a woman hit me I would do nothing. Part of being a man is taking the pain a woman brings with the happiness and part of being a woman is taking the pain a man brings with the happiness. Women don't have a right to hit men. Neither do men have a right to hit women. People who hit first are usually shallow and don't have the intellect to solve a problem using logic
About the T shirt thing, I think it should be Okay for people to wear any kind of T shirt they want without people shitting their pants over it. A wise man once said:"If you support freedom of speech, you support the speech of views you loathe the most" I support freedom of speech, so I think if women wanna wear shirts about how men suck, go for it. BUT, that means men get to wear shirts about women also. No selective outbursts on either side. Now I am not saying it is moral to wear Nasty T shirts about the opposite sex, (usually only the lower IQs do such a thing) but dumb or smart, it is there opinion, however just because I support their views, it does not mean I encourage them.
Oh and about the remarks part of your question, there is a lot on both sides. I think people think it's less acceptable for a man to make a remark about a women is because the media has drilled into women's heads that men are incoherant pigs who just wanna screw all day, so women get offended by it.
But it goes bad for the women also. If a man has sex a lot, he is a "Stud" but if a women does it she's a "Whore". This, alas, is also the medias fault. They have drilled into men's head that it is no longer about intellect, or finding a girl with some personality and stickin' to her, but F*******. And whoever F**** the least loses. That is how THEY see it, and however THEY see it, they want US to see it. And they want women to think of themselves of ugly, so they buy their beauty products. You know what the media wants to do? Divide us. They want to make us divided as possible. So they can sort through us and implant all their BS in our minds all day.
Plus women are more emotional, so they get worked up real easy.
About the hitting part, men are stronger, therefore they can hurt women. Plus a real man would NEVER hit a woman and a REAL woman would not hit a man.

2007-08-24 16:06:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4 4

If a man looks at a scantily clad woman, he's doing exactly what was intended by the wearer, so go nuts. No argument here. You set out to attract attention, you'll get attention. That goes for both sexes. No double standard.

Women want you to comment on what they wear. Women rarely comment on what men wear, but when they do, I don't hear them being catty. Almost never. Most women don't expect much in the way of fashion sense in a men, so no big deal there.

If a man hits a woman, it is wrong. If a woman hits a man, it is wrong. No double standard there.

If a man wears a shirt saying all women are bitches, that's the way it is. People will look at him like he's a pig--probably men and women--because he is one. And he will attract the type of company he deserves. If a girl wears a shirt saying all men are pigs, she will be looked at as being a ***** and will attract the right kind of company too.

None of what you're saying has anything to do with double standards. For every act, both sexes are equally wrong. You think there's a double standard anywhere here? I don't see any.

2007-08-24 16:36:20 · answer #4 · answered by teeleecee 6 · 3 5

Don't point fingers at feminists. Feminists are what got women where they are today. If we're (meaning women) going to continue on our road to liberation, things must be looked at with a critical eye.

I don't think that it's wrong to check out people. I don't check out anyone because physical appearances don't attract me very much. I don't repress the feeling though because having a sexuality is natural. I don't think it's wrong when a man checks out women either. I know most women can agree with this as well. It's just sometimes it might be seen as offensive. As if the person is not being seen for them self, merely as a nice pair of legs and such.

I think it's silly to make any sexist remark from males or females. Sometimes, I admit, I generalize from experiences but all in all they're uncalled for. I believe that people are more okay with a women making a sexist remark when, after all, it was the men who had kept them down for thousands of years. But it is time to a new page in history. I think it's time to not complain and if we have a problem, change it! We have a voice and it's time to feel liberated to use it. No need to make sexist remarks that won't do anything but piss a few people off.

If a man is wearing a misogynist shirt, I would stop him and give him a piece of my mind. I would do the same for a girl but I've yet to see an offensive shirt worn by a girl. I did see a "I'm too pretty to work shirt" a few days ago, that was offensive to her own gender. The shame.

Men are, in most cases, stronger than women- that's why. One of my friends accidentally broke his girlfriends wrist while they were playing around. See, I just think that they have to be more careful. Not that women have a right to beat men around. Words should never be answered with a fist, I can agree with that.

That's my opinion.

2007-08-24 15:44:37 · answer #5 · answered by Reflected Life 5 · 6 9

I rather agree with sssptazzz, so I'm not going to detail.

About the remarks: I don't mind things which are not too crude or when people don't actually STARE. Looking is fine, but staring... I've had people telling me I have good legs, or a nice b*tt, fine. As long as they don't insist, I don't mind. I only mind it if they become rude.

But that's just education, you know. And, I agree, some women do it too. That's just a lack of education, basically. But keep in ind that a lot of people are NOT feminists.

2007-08-24 16:15:09 · answer #6 · answered by Offkey 7 · 1 3

I agree, but for different reasons than Kate above.

First of all, the people you are talking about aren't called "Feminists", they are called "Hypocrites". Anyone who is for equality (ie real feminists), will understand that 1) making remarks about someone behind their back is wrong- male or female, 2) hitting anyone- male or female- is wrong, and 3) and wearing slogans on your shirt about men or women- is cheesy and tacky.

It ain't right, but don't blame the feminists for it-- blame the hypocrites.

2007-08-24 15:37:19 · answer #7 · answered by Kirby 6 · 11 2

You are making this stuff up as you go along:

1.'If a man looks at scantily clad women or makes a remark about a woman, he's considered chauvinist or sexist.'

Not necessarily; it would depend on what 'the remark' actually WAS. You have furnished no details as to the content of the 'remark' - so you lose that argument by default.

2. 'But if a woman makes a remark about men or checks out a shirtless man or romantic movie, she's allowed to.'

Romantic movie? You're saying it shouldn't be ok for a woman to 'make a remark' about a romantic movie? Or a shirtless husband mowing the law? Again, no clarification as to what this mysterious 'remark' actually is, so again you lose by default.

3. "If a man remarks about the way a woman looks he's wrong"

What is this mysterious 'remark' again? You lose - again.

4. " if a woman makes catty remarks about a man people look it over."
What is this 'catty' remark? Why do only women make 'catty' remarks, but men just make 'remarks'?
Again, none of your argument makes any sense, and again you lose by default.

5. "If a man hits a woman its wrong but if a woman hits a man its okay."

I think you should acquaint yourself with criminal law on the subject. When I read about 'assault' I have never noticed 2 sets of laws aimed at 2 genders. Where do you live that your criminal law has one separate law for each gender?

6. If a man wears a shirt making a remark about women, it's wrong and people look at him as a pig. If a girl wears a shirt about how boys are losers, scum, so forth, it's okay."

According to whom? Who says it's ok? Why do you think you can speak for others, erroneously assuming that they will think it's ok'? How are you pretending to know what is going on in the minds of others? Are you The Amazing Kreskin or something?

And that's my opinion(s).

2007-08-24 22:05:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 9

I don't think there is a double standard at all in the things you mention. If a woman makes sexist remarks about a man or touches him inappropriately, the man has the right to complain to whoever the woman would complain to if it was done to her. The thing is, the men seem to not take offense and many in fact like it or at least laugh it off or worse, think the woman is coming on to him so he flirts and gets all happy. If a woman hits a man, it's just as wrong as if a man hits a woman. When a woman wears a shirt that puts down men, she looks just as idiotic as a man who wears that kind of shirt.

2007-08-24 15:46:01 · answer #9 · answered by jenna 4 · 7 7

Because the law is behind them.. I attended a mandatory sexual harassment class at my work and I asked the un-askable question. We were encouraged to be candid, so I brought up the subject asking why certain women got breast enlargements, then wore low cut dresses and then filed charges when someone they didn't like was supposedly looking down their dresses. I was told a woman could dress in a way that made her feel good about herself, as long as it was within accepted office standards. It was also agreed to that augmentation is sometimes done to attract men to a certain end, which wasn't discussed because it was "out of the current forum". So I asked if it was OK if I came to work with a sock stuffed in my pants. The answer was, "Well, If you think you need to..." Go figure...

2007-08-24 15:32:42 · answer #10 · answered by obsolete professor 4 · 12 3

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