Is this a clear example why liberalism is a mental disorder?

Question

Injection center could help solve S.F. needle problem

Why should tax payers have to fund a center so that junkies can get clean needles? How about a drug treatment program instead?

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/08/23/BAS1RNICA.DTL

Answer 1

Of course this is yet another example! Why in hell should this government do anything but educate re: drug abuse? Giving out clean needles is like a bandaid fix nd that's typical of liberal thinking!

Answer 2

It probably goes to the practicallity of reducing disease and the possiblility of face to face encounters between those addicted and those trained to reduce addiction. Most addics, or in your pejoritive, 'junkies', are people who for what ever reason 'self-medicate'. Physical addiction follows an underlaying cause....usually some form of emotional problem. Sometimes these things can't be 'cured', but they can be controled to the point where the 'junkie' can hold a job and lead a 'normal life'. Some 'junkies' certainly are criminals, but then some corporate CEOs are as well...nothing new there. Society could just ignore these people, but as a species we're hard wired to 'do something'. Needle exchange programs have reduced the transmission of disease and 'treatment' has reduced some addiction. Perfect? Probably not. Maybe a 'surge' in these 'programs' would help...who knows?

Answer 3

When you are talking about San Fransico you must throw out all logic and norms as a standard.

This is not the United States, this is a micro-socialist republic much to the embarassment of most Californians.

If they wanted to deal with the problem of addicted hard drug users they should look a little closer to home and re-think the policies that attracted that element to their town.

The San Francisco metropolitan area has a higher percentage of people who are regular drug users than any other major metropolitan area in the USA, a study from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found. Nearly 13% of San Francisco residents reported using some type of illicit drug, such as marijuana, cocaine or heroin, in the previous month, according to data from the National Surveys on Drug Use and Health 2002-05. The national average is 8.1%.

San Fran seems also to be Pro-Terrorist.

Demonstrators showed up across the street from San Francisco’s taxpayer-supported Horace Mann Middle School and opposed a pro-terrorist festival being held there. The event inside the school celebrated the fourth anniversary of the Al-Aqsa Intifada against Israel that resulted in over 1,000 people murdered in cold blood. The sponsors, led by International A.N.S.W.E.R., this time calling themselves the Justice in Palestine Coalition, defined themselves as a "group of progressive organizations" consisting of Marxist-Leninist parties whose intent is to form a popular front against the West and Israel. This convention was a fine Orwellian display, complete with doublespeak, ritualized hatred, and the policing of "thought crimes." All who disagreed openly were barred from the radical teach-in at the public school.
That the San Francisco Unified School District rented its space to an exclusionary meeting of terrorist-supporting fanatics—in violation of state and federal laws, and possibly the USA PATRIOT Act—defies description. These people want America destroyed, and are not shy about it.

Answer 4

Well I'm somewhat liberal and I completely agree with you. There are actually quite a few of the same program your talking about here in New York City. A teacher at my school who is more liberal than me is also against such programs partly because she is studying to be a nurse.

Not only does a program like that fail to give drug addicts the right treatment, but I also think it sends the wrong message about needle drugs to our society which is really dangerous because drugs are something we should be discouraging.

Answer 5

No, it is not a good example of a lib. mental disorder but it does show a general disorder in the public body.

I would like to think that the program is being pushed because some people have finally realized there is no solution to the drug problem but the damages can be limited cheaply. It is far, far, cheaper to stop disease spread then to treat any disease and people should remember it is not just AIDS. Hepatitis, tuberculosis and many other infectious disease are spreading, often "piggybacking" on AIDS.

Incidentally the AIDS spread is no longer a gay problem, it has evolved to spread as easily though both sexes.

Answer 6

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Oh by the way, Rush never once said that drug users should be rounded up and shot. And by the way, his drug addiction was vastly different than an I.V drug abusers, in that he had a medical condition (severe back injury) that had been treated every way possible without success, and THEN his doctor prescribed Oxycontin. If you are prescribed this drug, then you are addicted to it almost immediately. Just ask anyone who has had to take it. What used to be moral and just, is now considered immoral and wrong. And what used to be immoral and wrong is now moral and right......liberalism is indeed a mental disorder. To paraphrase Winston Churchill. "Show me a man at 18 who is not liberal, and I will see a man without a heart, but show me a man at 40 who is not conservative, and I will see a man without a brain"
Gotta love that man

Answer 7

A drug treatment program is much more costly and the funds are not there.
You missed the purpose of the needle program, it is about helping to stop the spread of diseases (AIDS, hepatitis, etc) all of which can be spread to the non-needle using public.

Answer 8

Because the conservative government won't give enough money to social programs to start a drug treatment facility. Do you think all social programs come with the same price tag, or do you think that maybe a program to treat people for drug addiction might actually cost more than buying some needles?

So the answer to your question is no, it's not. It's an example of conservative apathy.

Answer 9

Um...

Sorry to be the one to break it to you sparky, but there are plenty of liberals endorsing drug treatment programs - but they get shot down by republicans who think that drug addiction is a crime, and not a sickness (including Rush Limbaugh - who was ironically busted for 'doctor shopping' to get his oxycontin fix - he said that drug addicts should be rounded up and shot)

Meanwhile, by attempting to at least have clean needles available, addicts won't be spreading diseases as much. It's like pissing on a wildfire, but unless we stop filling our already overcrowded prisons with addicts, end this ridiculous 'war on drugs', and start to address the real problem - addiction, we are going to continue to waste billions every year, and be no closer to a solution than we are now.

Answer 10

Clean needles $0.25 , treatment from sharing needles $100,000---$2,000,000 dollars .

Rehab $12,000.00 and is only affective in 5% or less of its attempts .

Since the state pays for rehab and medical expenses which would you adopt as a practice to save money . $0.25 needles or tens of thousands of dollars for the results of not using a clean needle .