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espn just reported vick is admitting to being present at dog fights and is submitting a guilty plea to the conspiracy charge only.not gambling or animal cruelty or killing any dogs.for this plea he will get a 1 year sentence at a federal country club resort..ooppss i mean federal prison.is he getting off easy?

2007-08-23 21:41:38 · 16 answers · asked by #1 NFL FAN 5 in Sports Football (American)

he is admitting to raising them,training them.selling them and being present at the dog fights but entering a plea that he didnt gamble on them.didnt gamble on them?what was he raising them and training them for then?

2007-08-23 22:01:18 · update #1

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Sadly, as much as Michael Vick disgusts me, I would believe that he didn't actually do the dirty deeds of killing the dogs, nor did he prosper from the gambling.

All three co-defendents state in their plea agreements that they split the winnings, Peace, Phillips and Taylor. NOT Michael Vick. Vick did PAY the losing bet if their dogs lost, but he did not profit from the winnings according to the other's testimony.

So far as the killings, well, I don't think Michael Vick would want to get his hands dirty, literally. But I do believe he was there, he watched and obviously gained some sort of pleasure from the cruel and heinous spectacle.

Although I believe Michael Vick deserves jail time, if he doesn't serve a long sentence that doesn't actually bother me that much. Regardless of my past posts, many written in anger and frustration when I consider what so many dogs must have suffered due to Michael Vick, I am not so bent on revenge.

I am more concerned with his ability to prosper and continue participating in the abuse of animals, or whatever else his sick mind may decide would be 'fun' next time. Therefore, his sentence is not such an issue to me, as I hope and pray that he is banned from the NFL forever. The kind of $ he will have access to if he continues to play pro sports is very dangerous in the hands of a sick sadistic individual.

2007-08-24 04:56:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What else would you expect from him but to deny the two most serious charges. I cannot see where the government would accept such a bogus plea but if they do Vick has yet to face the judge who could throw out the whole thing or just throw the book at Vick. So, it's still a wait and see proposition.
I am just glad he is going before a tough judge and not a candy-a** judge which it seems like we have more than our fair share of here in the U.S.

2007-08-24 04:01:59 · answer #2 · answered by Zinger 6 · 1 0

First off the Feds NEVER CHARGED HIM WITH ANIMAL CRUELTY. I wish people would keep in mind what the indictment was for. They can't invent new charges for the plea bargain. They can only use LOWER charges. Second you are forgetting that VIRGINA is considering going after him for Animal cruelty.

Oh and those who think Goodell CAN'T ban him should reread the NFL Rule. It says that you can't gamble or be associated with people who gamble. Very vague language. Doesn't even specify what you are gambling on.

2007-08-24 02:09:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It's been clear since the outset of the plea negotiations that Vick was negotiating to have the gambling charges go away--it's his only chance for reinstatement in the NFL--and it's easier to allow Vick to plead guilty to a lesser offense than to go to trial and rely on the testimony of lowlives who the defense would obviously characterize as having said what they said to get their sentences reduced. In other words, the feds are taking the easy road.

But why be up in arms about Vick's sentence? The other scum got around 16 months and nobody is screaming about that...why should Vick get a worse sentence--just because he's famous?

2007-08-24 01:32:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

He is - IF - the judge accepts the plea agreement as it is reported. I am not sure the judge will. He may look and see that all the evidence including the other guys all said Mike paid for it all, gambled and participated in the crimes and give him the 5 years.

Then the state of Virginia is free to try him on killing animals - no double jeopardy because he didn't plead guilty to that and they will nail his butt for animal cruelty - and that is 5 years per incident - in other words per dog.

I hope all that happens!

2007-08-24 00:39:27 · answer #5 · answered by vegasrob89118 6 · 4 0

I don't know how this compares to other plea bargains for similar offenses for first time offenders. It looks pretty reasonable.

The country club resort isn't exactly a true depiction, any more. Since drug dealers started getting convicted for federal crimes rather than state on a more widespread basis, these institutions are now filled with them, and not just white collar criminals from Manhattan or Enron.

2007-08-24 00:34:18 · answer #6 · answered by BAGOFSWAGS 5 · 0 2

I heard on Sporting News Radio that the judge might reject this and the Plea Bargin will be thrown out.

Personally as long as Vick is banned from the NFL for life, I don't care if he only gets a day in prison.

2007-08-23 23:47:52 · answer #7 · answered by The law is a form of tyranny. 4 · 3 1

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2016-11-13 07:43:07 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If he does not admit to killing dogs and gambling, he should not be allowed to take this plea deal.

2007-08-24 02:09:37 · answer #9 · answered by Michael G 4 · 1 0

Yep, just like Nicole Ritchie, Lindsay Lohan, and Paris Hilton. There's a problem with the U.S. when their celebrities are treated differently with regards to laws.

2007-08-23 22:42:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

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