What do you think about the Mayans (Knowladge and Calender). .?

Question

In modern society, the existence of Pluto was not confirmed until the early 1930's, making nine planets. The Mayans always called earth the seventh planet. Earth is the seventh planet if you are coming from outside of our solar system and count Pluto on the way. The Mayan calender predicted to the day (Aug 27 07) when Mars will be as close to Earth as it ever gets. It speaks of two moons, and a gate that is brought along with the "two moons" (our Moon and Mars) that will take us to the end of the sixth sun (Dec 21, 2012) AT A TIME WHEN THE EARTH IS COVERED BY A WEB!!! WWW=World Wide Web. Very insightful and amazing. Please share your thoughts with me and any links that might be of pertinence to this topic. Thanks.

My bad, Aug 27 03 should be the correct date.

Y2k is not when our computers all blew up and we died, it was when all of our computers were updated and linked by means of similar software. The end of the sixth sun does not necessarily mean the end of the world, but more of the beginning of "a golden age". This question was more over a test to see how many self-described "debunker's" would bite at the bait. Many I see. I hope if nothing else that people will see that it is equally rash and unhealthy to be a full blown skeptic/debunker as it is to be an extreme conspiracy theorist. One unrelated fact is true and should get minds on both sides of the fence thinking. The water erosion discovered on the back of the sphinx could not have possibly been 4-5k years ago. Any geologist or climatologist would agree that there has not been that much rain on the Giza plane since approx 12,500 years ago. This one discrepancy should send shock waves through what we are told about human origin. Hmm.

Answer 1

Ouch, where to start.

So, we count Pluto (but not Eris or Ceres) to get 7th planet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet

Mars will be on the other side of our solar orbit and very far away on 8/27/07- http://www.snopes.com/science/mars.asp
pretty much negating your "2 moons" theory.

The earth web / WWW is really stretching it, and the 2012 end of the world is debunked almost daily on this board.

Answer 2

I do not consider myself to be a debunker. I believe that any 'true' scientist should always have an open mind. I always try to maintain a seperation between theory and fact. I maintain a healthy interest in the possibilities of extraterrestrial life and the mysteries of Earth's past (including the erosion of the Sphinx).

My response to any 2012 questions on yahooanswers is harsh because I have studied the subject and I have been through most of the 2012 websites. It's a travesty towards science that such websites are allowed to exist. Not all persons are well educated and even less have common sense to have the ability to seperate truth from fiction. We are living in very sad times when psychic/doomsday/armegeddon sites profess fictitious/fantasy and present it as fact. It apalls me. Gullable people willbe believing such nonsense for the next five years and will spread the untruths to others. We as a population deserve better. I can come on here and try to convince persons that what they have read on a 2012 website was fiction but how many people do you think really listen? Most are already convinced that what they read was true and the end is near. It's not so much being a debunker as trying to keep people in the real world and think for themselves. Disinformation is a hard weapon to fight against. I find it a disgrace to society and humankind that there is such a vast amount of it out there. Look at what happened with the Mars as big as the Moon thing. Multiply that geometrically or quantumly and you will imagine what to expect on yahooanswers as we get closer and closer to 2012.

The real question is how long individuals attempt to correct misguided individuals before the attempts become overwhelmingly futile and they give up? Then what becomes of the world?

Answer 3

Wow. You are bringing together a lot of the recent hoaxes and wrapping them up as one. Not bad.

Pluto started off being called a planet because, when it was found it was thought to be big enough to be a planet. Now we know better. If you count planets from the outside in AND you include Pluto, then you must also include Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta which were planets from 1801 (for Ceres) until 1845. They are each much brighter than Pluto. In fact, it was possible to (barely) see Vesta without a telescope in May and June of this year. Pluto is 4,000 times fainter than Vesta.

Therefore, Earth is the 11th counting inward from Pluto.

When I studied the Mayan calendar, I was surprised how accurately it was based on astronomy. Therefore, the Mayans would NEVER have predicted Aug, 27 '07 as the day that Mars gets closest to Earth because on August 27 2007, Mars is nowhere near Earth. The date of opposition for Mars, in 2007, is December 24.

The date on which Mars was the closest to Earth was August 27, 2003. An astronomer had announced that Mars, seen through a 75x telescope, would appear as large as the Moon does to the naked eye. A journalist reported it without mentioning the annoying need for a telescope. Since then, every year someone sends out the same hoax that on August 27, Mars will look as big as the Moon.

The Mayans would not have been taken in by such an obvious hoax.

The Mayan calendar has many periods (such as days, months, years). The longest period in their calendar is what we call the long count (it lasts 5,160 years so it deserves to be called "long").

The present long count will finish on December 21, 2012 (in our calendar). Their years start (and finish) on the winter solstice and that particular solstice is one when the Sun (as seen from Earth) will appear closest to the centre of the Galaxy (but not in line with it -- it is never in line with it).

This happens every 25,800 years (every 5 long counts) and it shows that they knew about precession and knew how to calculate its duration.

They never said anything about a web. The date of the end of the long count has nothing to do with any web and nothing to do with Mars or our Moon (together or separately). These ideas are recent fabrications (after 2003).

Along with the idea that "they" predicted the end of the world for 21 December 2012. That date is simply their equivalent of our Y2k on 31 Dec. 1999 (Remember? that is when our computers blew up and we all died!).

On the next day, we simply begin the next long count.

Just as we had all kinds of hoaxes connected to Y2k, we will see a lot more connected to this thing.

Answer 4

Having attended a lecture in the Yucatan, at Tulum, it was said that the Mayans were very intelligent and artistic.
However, in all the dates that they used, they never wrote the full year, as, 12-12-2007. They did as we often do, 12/12/07.
Therefore all the dates, that accompanied their art and writings, could never be verified of "what century" they were in.

It was also said that there came a period when "no new art" was created. They began to copy those from the past, and it's believed that was the beginning of the decline of their civilization.

Interesting aside from that lecture.
There was a group of Japanese visiting the Mayan cities where there are still pure blood Mayans. Mayans speak some Aramaic.
The Japanese understood their language.