If you were going to try to organize standards for ethical breeding for your registry, what would they be?

Question

Uhhhh....we're talking horse here...

HORSES. HORSES, you moronic imbiciles, this is the HORSE forum. Take your racist crap elsewhere...

Mine:
1. Any horse used for breeding must be certified by the Registry; only certify horses who represent the best of what the breed has to offer. Certified inspectors and inspection fees are means of income for the association to replace registration fees.
2. Higher minimum stud fees either by rule or mandatory annual limitation on stud books.
3. Require genetic testing parent verification. (TWH already does this) Breeds with prolific inherited disorders that are easily diagnosed should require testing and not allow carriers to breed.
4. A MINIMUM age for breeding and don't paper any foal born to parents below it. There would be fewer "mistakes" if it were more costly to make them.
5. Promote GELDINGS through high paybacks for them at sanctioned shows. (I stole that idea from another forum)
6. Limit class size for foals and weanlings at sanctioned shows.

Yes, it will make showing & breeding expensive, it won't stop all but the cost of doing nothing is too great.

Answer 1

License the breeders and require them to pay a yearly fee per mare and stallion (and not $10 per horse per year either). Do not allow registration of any foal that resulted from a mare or stallion that is younger than four years old. Require all mares and stallions to be inspected at four years old and pass the breed standard or require that they have to have earned a register of merit in either halter or one performance event. (or the breed equivalent). If they do not pass or earn the required breed show points, then require that the horses either be gelded, spayed, or the papers will be dropped. Offer incentives for horses that are gelded when registered or gelded before they turn two. Same with the mares. The breed associations have really gotten away from preserving the breed and the standards. And instead are just churning out papers to make money. If they saw some of what was representing their breeds, they would choke. There is a guy who comes to the team ropings that we go to. His registered Paint horse is (no kidding) 14 hands tall. He has a roman nose, pump jack head, ewe neck and no rump. And those are his good points. This horse could be a poster child for the Fugly Horse Website. And guess what? He is a stallion! That this guy breeds to anything that pulls in his driveway. For $50! Not counting the 10 mares of his own that he is breeding to death. And selling the colts for $150 - $200. With papers. People like him are the reason for the need for way tougher standards in the associations. Good Question.

Answer 2

I'll have to ponder this for a while, but right off the top, I'd like to see stallion and mare testing as they do for warmblood registries where the horses are graded for desirable traits. Horses that qualify would be awarded breeding licenses. Now that embryos can be transferred, many more horses can be bred from one mare. That mare should also have to pass inspection and be licensed as the potential for mass breeding is there. No cloning. Too many unknowns down the road. Foal crops would need to be assessed before licenses could be renewed. Other sources of revenue besides registration need to be strong or the desire to register as many foals as possible will be the driving force of a breed registry,w ith subsequent programs aimed at rewarding those who breed the most, but not necessarily the best. Payouts that make geldings a viable crop and a lucrative purchase. When geldings have great value, there will be more of them than stallions....An affordable way to spay mares and recognition for them same as geldings. Anyway, this is where I'm starting, I may edit later.

Answer 3

o.k those first two were scary-lol
now for your questions..
For the arabian breed I would organize these standards.
* A stallion owner or breeder must have a horse that best represents the breed.
* the stallion on mare must have a pedigree with champion bloodlines for the breed at least in a certian %
* The breeder or owners should have a contract that for anyreason the future owners can not care for the horse properly than they will take the horse back into their care and find the best possible home for him/her
I guess this is not much but the only thing I can think of right now.Good question!!

Answer 4

Good question. I believe that many registries are not strict enough. The purpose of breeding os to better perfect the breed and hold the breed standard as the utmost important thing. All horses be bred for confirmation, health, soundness/ stability beauty and purpose....in conjunction with size color and temperment. Just breeding two paints to get color is bad, just breeding two minis to get a smaller horse is horrible and just breding a horse, regardless of pedigree, age or genetics is disgusitng. I have a papered mare OMG i have to get her bred now is all too common of a problem. Oh we got a colt, we can sell him and make money because he is a breeding stallion. Truthfully not all horses are of breeidng quality...infact many of them are not sound for breeding at all but it is an owner's right to breed them (although I personally think it should not be). My trainer as a kid said "out of a hundred colts... to find the perfect stallion you need to geld ninety and shoot nine". If i were in charge of a registry, I would require all horses to be inspected before being registered and not only would size, color. confirmation or temperament be judged but also genetics. No HYPP, Lethal white overos, NI, CA or HEPA genetic defects allowed. No bite problems, back, hoof or leg problems should be bred. This may sound cruel to some, but breeding a horse that may pass on HYPERKALEMIC PERIODIC PARALYSIS to her foal is much crueler. I also believe everyone who thinks they're qualified to breed a registered horse should get a permit and have to pass a test. That may piss off a lot of backyarders but i do not care. Breeding a horse for a pet is one thing but if your trying to perfect a nd preserve a breed standard you must do it with caution.

Answer 5

I have Appaloosas and this question is a really hot topic. The question is, is the ApHC a blood registry, color registry or pdigree registry? Currently it is a pedigree registry.

I'm of the belief that the books should be closed to other breeds. Presently QH, TB and Arab crosses are allowed and receive full ApHC papers. Others argue that outcrossing is still necessary to achieve the type of horse they want. Since I don't want to allow a solid colored 15/16ths QH to be registered ApHC, I feel that there should at least be a breed back to Appaloosa requirement.

As far as inspecting for type, the ApHC is still along way away from even inspecting for hereditary flaws. I doubt there will ever be much agreement on standards.

Answer 6

all animals who havent been shown to meet a basic level of qualifications for quality would be gelded..or spayed (yes you can spay mares)

too many horses being slaughtered for no reason other than poor breeding...

Answer 7

White does not mix with any other color.

Blacks are eleminated and the rest are tolerated as slaves.

I know

Answer 8

black/white white/Asians /Asians/Italian Spanish/White

I think everybody should mix. The more the prettier

Answer 9

i would just have grey horses!!!!!!!!!!