Is this one of the clearest examples of "too much government" control ?

Question

Please dont confuse my argument, as I intend not to defend Micheal Vick's bonehead display of ignorance, due to his position in society. He's an idiot. What does bother me is that , animals are killed often in sport....Game hunting etc....,

Now, is it me, or is the fact that "dogfighting" is unregulated by the Feds (no profit for Uncle Sam) the only reason anyone would be converted into a "criminal". If dogfighting were a regulated sport then, this wouldn't be an issue.

I take the stance that, our society is over regulated by over 60 million statuates that create criminals and we are treated as if we aren't capable of governing ourselves ....almost like "we have to be saved from ourselves". I ask...what "man" or "men" are qualified to regulate us.....and who allowed this?

Are we punks here to have allowed this form of government to operate at the current capacity?.........or do we feel the same way about ourselves

Answer 1

While I agree that the government goes a little far in trying to protect us from ourselves, I don't think this is the case in dogfighting. It is barbaric. The dogs suffer much for it. Conscientious hunters will try to kill their game as quickly and humanely as possible. There is no room for conscientious dogfighters because the whole point is for the dogs to hurt, maim, and kill each other.

Answer 2

Look, this is a very old argument (like, thousands of years old), but basically it comes down to protecting the vulnerable. If there is no law, the strong can prey on the weak, such as children (or animals), and the victims have no redress.

Obviously, the world's many legal systems have developed a long way beyond that, but the basic idea is to protect people, to promote the greatest good and the least harm. It is also to produce a law-abiding and humane type of society, full of people who are CAPABLE of governing themselves.

Clearly, there must be checks and balances to prevent and correct legal excesses, such as imprisonment of innocent people, and that's why we need a democratic political system to give a voice to reformers of the law, and to ensure that individuals do not wield great power indefinitely or with excessive zeal.

Answer 3

Animals shouldn't be killed in hunting, sport, or eating either, it is wrong regardless of whether or not its legal, but everyone thinks because everyone else is doing it its ok.

Dog fighting however is an especially cruel way to die its comparable to what the romans did to the christian martyrs only the martyrs had a say in it to some extent at-least they could denounce their faith.

Vick's torture included drowning, hangings, and making dogs fight till the death.... those dogs lived a life imprisoned and tortured almost every moment of their lives, even their deaths were torture.

i agree theres too many laws but thats because theres so many laws regarding morality and victimless crimes, what vick did had victims

Answer 4

While the government does have a habit of getting too close to our personal lives, this is not one of those cases. Even animals have rights (though they're not as extensive as a human's), and one of those is not to be subjected to animal cruelty. Game hunting generally tries to make the kill as swift and painless as possible. Dog fighting is nothing short of vicious.

Answer 5

Is this one of the clearest examples of too much government control?
No, I think that honor falls to things like "Title IX." Any time the government is called in to "level the playing field," THAT is too much.
We've gone full circle. We're back to the corrupt and decadent days of the Roman Empire and the gladiators in the arena. And this is fun to watch?
Having also been professionally trained to handle just about every "hand-held" weapon in the U.S. inventory, and having fought in several "conflicts" and one fully declared war -- I think that killing (or maiming) for "sport" is not sport. "Sport" is when they get to shoot back. Anything less is just cowardly.

Answer 6

Soooo, training domesticated animals to maul, maim, cripple and potentially kill each other is the same thing as hunting wild game. Wow, I think moral relativism has just hit a new low.

See everyone at the kitten fights. /s

Answer 7

Many individuals are capable of governing themselves. There are also some that can't. That's what the laws are for. We regulate ourselves until someone oversteps a boundary.

Answer 8

Dogfighting laws are State laws, and gambling on the outcome of dogfights is illegal under Frederal statutes.

Answer 9

Dogs are property by law. What a man does with his own property is no one else's business. Yes, the government has taken too much power, yes we're to blame.

Answer 10

your arguement would be valid if dogs were allowed to vote on the issue. But since they aren't.....