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I read a book on it awhile back and there was supposedly a general who was rivaling Washington, and I want to know what his name was. I think it may have began with a "S", he apparently was full of himself and Washington disliked him, if you could let me know what you think his name was, I'd appreciate it.

2007-08-20 18:42:24 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities History

I think this general was on the verge of replacing Washington at one point, it wasn't Arnold because the Brits eventually captured this guy.

2007-08-20 19:12:40 · update #1

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The man in question was known as Lord Stirling, since he claimed the title of Earl of Stirling, though his true name was William Alexander. Stirling ranks among the most unususual and controversial of he Revolutionary War Generals. Stirling had been a regular in the British Army and Washington called upon Stirling to help organize the army along British rules etc. Stirling was slovenly, always accompanied by a pack of dogs (and this was in an era when no one pooper scooped after their pooch), he was capable of brilliance but was overtly fond of the bottle and often was accussed of being drunk.

He did General Washington great service and did counter the Conway Cabal, an attempt by another General to unseat Washington, but was equally 'traitorous' toward his friend Washington, writing nasty letters and at one time seemed to be angling for Washinton's job. Certainly several members of Congress were fond of Stirling and fawned over him, suggesting to him that he should oppose Washington, assuring him of their support.

Washington did NOT dislike Stirling, despite Stirling's pompous airs, oddly enough Washington was incapable of disliking people, he was much to magnaminous, a word lost to modern ears. Washington was exasperated by Stirling but there was no open breech until Stirlings actions at the Battle of Monmouth nearly provoke disaster. Only then did Washington agree to censure Stirling.

In addittion to Stirling one other General openly jockeyed for Washington's job. Following his Victory at Saratoga General Horatio Gates began to believe that he was a Genius and tried to convince others that he should be Commanding the Army. After a Disasterous rout in the Carolinas there was no doubt that Gates was more suited for desk duty.


flawed but a source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Alexander
""""William Alexander (1726 – 1783), who claimed the disputed title of Earl of Stirling, was an American major-general during the American Revolutionary War.
Born in New York City, Alexander was an educated, ambitious and bright young man and was proficient in mathematics and astronomy. He joined his mother in a successful provisioning business and, in 1747, married Sarah Livingston, the daughter of Philip Livingston (1686-1749) and sister of Governor William Livingston. The couple had two daughters.

During the French and Indian War, he joined the British Army where he became aide-de-camp to Governor William Shirley. He traveled to London in 1756 to testify on behalf of Shirley, who was facing charges of dereliction of duty. While there he claimed the vacant title of Earl of Stirling, in the Peerage of Scotland, as senior male descendant of the first earl's grandfather, and was permitted to vote in an election of the Scottish representative peers. The British House of Lords refused to recognize his claim without proof of descent, but he continued to style himself Earl of Stirling all his life long. The right to the earldom would have implied his right to a land grant that consisted of much of the New England coast, parts of Nova Scotia and the entire St. Lawrence River valley, given to the heirs male of the first earl; his grandson, William Alexander Duer, wrote that this was his chief reason for pursuing it. He took the nephews of the fifth, and last, Earl (Henry Alexander, 5th Earl of Stirling) into partnership on the land claim.

Satisfied by the partial acceptance of his claim, he returned to America in 1761, now using the title Lord Stirling. Stirling was appointed Surveyor-General of the Province of New Jersey and was also a member of the Provincial Council. He was one of the founders of King's College (predecessor of Columbia University) and became its first governor.

Stirling was a socially prominent and wealthy man, having inherited a large fortune from his father. He dabbled in mining and agriculture and lived a life filled with the trappings befitting an English Lord. This was an expensive lifestyle and he eventually went into debt to finance it. He began building his grand estate in Basking Ridge, N.J. and upon its completion, sold his home in New York and moved there. George Washington was a guest there on several occasions during the revolution and gave away Stirling’s daughter at her wedding.

When the American Revolutionary War began, Stirling was made a colonel in the New Jersey militia. He outfitted the militia at his own expense and was always willing to spend his own money in support of the cause. He distinguished himself early by leading a group of volunteers in the capture of an armed British transport.

Congress appointed him brigadier general in the Continental Army in March 1776. At the Battle of Long Island, in August of that year, Stirling led the Maryland Brigade in repeated attacks against a superior British force and took heavy casualties. Outnumbered 25-1, his brigade was eventually overwhelmed and Stirling was taken prisoner, but not before repelling the British forces long enough to allow the main body of troops to escape. Because of his actions at Long Island, one newspaper called him "the bravest man in America" and he was praised by both Washington and the British for his bravery and audacity.

He was released in a prisoner exchange, promoted to major general and became one of Washington’s most able and trusted generals. Washington held him in such high regard that he placed Stirling in command of the entire Continental Army for nearly two months, while he was away on personal business and throughout most of the war he was considered to be 3rd or 4th in rank behind Washington. At Trenton, Stirling received the surrender of a Hessian regiment and subsequent battles at Brandywine, Germantown and Monmouth cemented his reputation for bravery and sound tactical judgment. In 1779 he surprised and captured a British detachment at Paulus’ Hook. Lord Stirling also played a part in exposing the Conway Cabal, a conspiracy of disaffected officers looking to remove Washington as Commander-in Chief and replace him with General Horatio Gates.
When Washington took his army south in 1781, he appointed Stirling commander of the northern army and he was sent to Albany. Stirling, always a heavy drinker, was in poor health by this time, suffering from severe gout and rheumatism. He died in Albany on January 15, 1783. His untimely death just months before the official end of the war is the probable reason that he is not as well known today as many of the other generals. Still, his significant contributions made him one of the most important figures of the American Revolution.""

BUT YES Lord Stirling was 'full of himself,' and what the cite article fails to mention is how he was ignobly captured and his later squabbles with Washington...

Peace.

PS Having reread Wikipedia article must confess upset - - - it has several glaring inaccuracies. Stirling was not captured during battle, he was lounging at breakfast without an adequate guard aerally caught and was literally caught with his pants down....

2007-08-20 19:20:07 · answer #1 · answered by JVHawai'i 7 · 4 0

You are probably looking for Horatio Gates. There was plot to replace Washington with Gates in 1777. It was supported by Thomas Conway (another General) and some members of the Continental Congress. The scheme was known as The Conway Cabal.

Here is a link:
http://www.ushistory.org/march/other/cabal.htm

Oh yeah,
Benedict Arnold was not captured by the Brits. He tried to betray the Americans. When the plot was uncovered he "defected over to the British.

2007-08-21 05:37:54 · answer #2 · answered by El Scott 7 · 2 0

apropos of nothing:

Top Ten Reason Americans won Revolution:


French kept surrendering; Brits tied up taking prisoners;

British marched on the left of the road, Americans on the right; never made contact;

Too may tea breaks!

Cricket takes so long to play ( versus baseball ) most British troops never got into battle;

Reinforcements coming from Europe got lost in Bermuda Triangle;

Never got those Red Coats back from the cleaners.;

Stayed in towns, watching BBC America on cable and getting homesick;

Didn't have exact change for GW Bridge, Jersey Turnpike, etc...

Patriots had Brady and Belicheck;

and the Number One Reason:

Thought they were fighting the NEW YORK Yankees; spent their time in the Bronx booing A-Rod

2007-08-21 11:16:42 · answer #3 · answered by yankee_sailor 7 · 0 1

I believe it was Bennedict Arnold. I could be wrong but that is what I remember from American History last year.

2007-08-21 01:47:21 · answer #4 · answered by Hermione Granger 3 · 0 0

charles cornwallis, that idiot

benedict arnold was a patriot who was really into our side and our goal, but his wife brainwashed him like many wives do and he became traitor

2007-08-21 01:49:16 · answer #5 · answered by ceesteris 6 · 0 2

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