Why is the SNP given credence when the BNP is not ?

Question

Both are Nationalist parties by definition; maybe its time for an English National Party ?

Spawnee, I am no Nazi, I just believe in free speech. Yes my politics run to the right of Conservatism, but then even the Labour Party seems to do so these days.Also, I don't see why the BNP cannot support Israel as a fiercely nationalist country, but then thats another subject. However I do believe that nations should have boundaries, both seen and unseen.

Answer 1

The answers to this question so far for the most part regurgitate the same old lies about the BNP. What do the words "racist" or "fascist" mean today, apart from "something undesirable"? The BNP has plenty of credence in England, Scotland and Wales; and justifiably so.

Answer 2

The parties may "sound" the same, but they are not the same. The Scottish National Party is a party that is left-to-centre wing in all aspects of policy making which campaigns for Scottish Independence.
The British National Part has far right wing foreign polices with a mix of Left wing home polices.
The British National Party campaigns to be Independent from the EU, in a sense. Where as the SNP do not.

There are many differences in policy.

I do quite agree that there should be an ENP, and in fact there is a party that almost is that: the English Democrats, they campaign for an English Parliament, and the like.

Answer 3

Nationalism is an admirable an just cause,unfortunately the BNP has a history of racism,fascism and NF following.An English National Party would have to have in it's manifesto to relinquish the 1701 act of Union and strive for a Kingdom of England or become a Republic.

Answer 4

Like the SNP the BNP is a legitimate political party with expressed policies which are not unlawful. So why, in our so-called democracy, is the BNP so maliciously regarded by some? As a Labour supporter throughout my long voting life I am unlikely to support a BNP candidate at the next election but I firmly support the freedom of others to do so if they so choose. That is democracy.

In my lifetime we have had parliamentary election candidates from the BUF (British Union of Fascists), which was anti-Jewish and founded by an ex-Labour MP, Oswald Mosley. "The Blackshirts", as they were known for their uniform, had much support in some areas but did not suffer the brainwashed "pc" treatment that the BNP does today. Of course, we did not then have "pc" laws throttling free speech and expression. At the same time we had the British Communist Party, who had candidates elected as MPs.

Unlike today, we then had no anti-fascist organisations or the like to malign political parties. We were genuine democrats and let the ballot boxes decide. What's more, we fought a war to defend and preserve that democratic principle.

An English National Party, you suggest? Fair enough. You are free to found one. I've been thinking of starting the OCP (the Old Codgers' Party), with the slogan "Free zimmer frames, hearing aids, anti-mugging body armour and viagra (males only) for all".

Answer 5

Because unlike the Scottish National Party, the BNP is based on an discredited ideology of 'national socialism'. The views of the SNP are not crypto-fascist or Neo-Nazi and they do not support the denigration of anyone based on their colour, religion or nationality.

It is worth remembering that whilst the BNP can call themselves a 'party' it does not make them so; they merely need to stump up the money to stand for election; so - sure - that puts them on a par with Labour and the Conservative Party, but yet more tellingly with the Monster Raving Loony Party.

Answer 6

The difference is that one evolved from a Nazi party, the other aims for self-governance of Scotland. Huge difference in political ideology. As for English Nationalism, a few minor parties (mainly splinter groups of the BNP and/or the NF) do exist, see my link below.
Personally, I would never vote for a party, who ideology is (wholey or partly) based on Nazism!

I notice on your profile Welshpikey that you go to church, if that is so, you will know that Nazism has no place in Christianity.

Answer 7

The BNP are fascists, the SNP are a moderate left party. That is the difference.

Answer 8

It does sseem unfair but the PC types will say that the SNP are not racist like the BNP. Although it could be argued that they are racist to the English.

I'm sure an English National Party would just be accused of being an offshoot of the NF, which is very very unfair.

Answer 9

The SNP want Scotland to be an independent country but they aren't into white supremacy.The BNP are a white power group and are therefore Nazis.Nazis are bad.

Answer 10

It is not being a national party that is the problem but what a party's policies actually are. The SNP has never made racism and immigration a campaign point so it is not associated with skinheadism but with socialism.