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2007-08-18 10:40:46 · 9 answers · asked by digitallyneosticated 2 in Science & Mathematics Physics

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lets proof it mathematically.

How did the first protein originate? The theory of evolution has no answer to this question either.

Proteins are the building blocks of the cell. If we compare the cell to a huge skyscraper, proteins are the bricks of the skyscraper. Proteins are made up of smaller structures, or molecules, called "amino acids", which are formed by the different combinations made by carbon, nitrogen and hydrogen atoms. There are 500-1,000 amino acids in an average protein.

The important point is that amino acids have to line up in a certain sequence to form a protein. There are 20 different amino acid types used in living organisms. These amino acids do not combine at random to form proteins. Every protein has a certain amino acid sequence and this sequence must be precisely matched. Even the deficiency or the replacement of a single amino acid renders that protein a useless lump of molecules. For thi s reason, every amino acid must be just at the right place in the right sequence. The instructions for this sequence are stored in the DNA of the cell and, according to them, the proteins are produced.

The theory of evolution claims that the first proteins formed "by chance". Probabilistic calculations, however, show that this is by no means possible. For instance, the probability of the amino acid sequence of a protein made up of 500 amino acids being in the correct order is 1 in 10^950.10^950 is an incomprehensible figure formed by placing 950 zeros after 1. In mathematics, a probability smaller than 1 over 1050 is considered to be almost impossible.

Even a single protein cannot form by chance, and there are billions of Protein in human body. and there are billions of people here in this world. Calculation would be [ 10^950 x Number of protein molecules in human body x number of people in the world ever existed ]. Can you imagine this figure. The probability that human life can form by chance is nothing but 0.

Finally, the time necessary for the molecule to form was 10^243 billion years.This was far greater than the supposed age of the universe - only about 2 billion years. It was impossible for the universe to have created itself, and for life to randomly form.

The only answer left is that there is a creation, and when there is a creation , there is a CREATOR.

2007-08-18 11:45:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

Umer, are you serious? You just used Aquinas' "First Cause" argument and tried dressing it up as an infinite series. Even church theologists have torn this argument to shreds. GET A CLUE! But seriously, Aquinas wrote that about 800 years ago. I think somebody must have constructed a better argument since the 13th century. Or have they? Sorry, they haven't.

Edit to umer:
You applied your proof incorrectly. An infinite series is just that, infinite. If it doesn't end, then how can it have an end term (or in the case of your "proof", a first cause). And if it's undefined, how did you define it as an infinite series. If it has an endpoint, it's solvable. Maybe you should have paid attention in math class, but I bet you were just praying for a C.
Edit to Taimur:
You have failed in your attempted statistical analysis. What are your parameters, what is your data? Have you included the fact that proteins were most likely not the first complex organic molecules to form? Have you accounted for the huge variations of proteins and the immense numbers of possible functional combinations? Have you also completely overlooked the fact that evolution is still true regardless of how life originated? And if one organism forms by chance, there is no need to include the billions it can produce in calculating the original probability. I have the unsettling feeling that you're about as good at math as a rat playing with a calculator (maybe evolution skipped you, calculate that probability).

Edit to umer:
I highly doubt you have completed a degree in anything besides ignorance, because there is an english requirement to graduate from any accredited school. Also, if you've studied math, infinities are possible, and frequent. Ever heard of infinite series. Also, if you studied science, you would realize that your idiotic "proof" is not a proof, but just ignorant ramblings. You would also understand the difficulty in proving a negative, so again, I decline your invitation to make an as$ out of myself by stooping to your level. I guess you didn't read that email I sent you. Like I said, not knowing something does not prove it to be the result of supernatural processes. So what you have conjectured is not a theory, it's not even a hypothesis, it's your beliefs and you can't prove them using any valid logical or mathematical principles. Better men have tried and failed, but they at least constructed their arguments in a coherent fashion. You can't prove the existence of god, nobody can. If you choose to believe in god, that's cool. More power to you. I will not knock your beliefs or ridicule you for holding them. I will ridicule you for attempting to prove your beliefs.
Science alone is left with the task of explaining the world without invoking the god. This does not mean that scientists don't believe in god, it just means that their beliefs are not grounds for proof and should be kept out of scientific theory and discourse. We have churches, temples, synagouges, and so forth for a reason. Please keep religion seperate from math and science. Thank you.

2007-08-18 11:12:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I saw someone give a mathematical proof of this once. It ended with the guy popping the guy next to him in the mouth declaring, "You want proof, I'll give you proof" :-)

2007-08-18 11:42:05 · answer #3 · answered by Dr. R 7 · 1 0

I have seen people try but if there was a mathematical proof that everyone can agree on, we would all know about it.

2007-08-18 23:04:03 · answer #4 · answered by gradjimbo 4 · 0 0

I can prove it,

When u ask a scientist, that how is anything like for example, salt is made.

scientist will tell u that, salt is made when 2 or more chemicals combine, now when ever u will ask them about any thing ,,they will say the same, that is, every thing is made of any other thing.

Now u tell me, if u do reverse engineering. and keep asking to ur self, that from what is every thing made, so,

At one stage when u will come to, How this earth is made?
Then u can say that, few other planets did this and that, and it made our planet,

but, what made the other planets , that did this and that to made earth???

well, u can say, some chemical, or some other planet or some Alian or some thing else made earth,


But the question is still there, who made all other things which made earth, or the things that made earth and the things that made the things of things which made earth .......

so now

x=earth
x1= things made earth
x2= things used to made the things that made earth
x3=things used to make x2
so on

earth = x1+x2+x3+....

This eqution is undefined or unlimited. Can u solve it?
can u tell me, what was the first thing in the world that made all the other things????

You can't, because its the God who can do every thing, including making of this planet.
if you don't believe in God, then atleast understand 1 thing.
NO one can live for ever, u can have a life of lets say 100 years. so is this much good for u??
think of all the advancements and things that will come in the future, think of u, baried in the earth, while others will continue to enjoy in the world, you can't live for ever.

When u will understand all what I said above, then u will not need any equation to Prove the existence of GOD.

Try to think, it can change your life.
God bless you and every one else.

its for "science geek"

Then y don't u answer my ????
whether its 8000 years old, just answer my question

This is limit less equation for people like u, who don't believe in god, for me, it has a limit.
I have done masters in engineering, so don't think, I am weak in maths.
I wrote that equation, to prove that if u don't believe in god, then its limit less equation which is not possible,
Think first, before u write to me.

Also, where is the answer to my question??????
Smart man

hmmm, u said my english is bad. That’s interesting.
Its very much related to this question, I think so, as u r a very smart man.
Anyway, I am doing a full time job, about $3700/month and
I also work as a copywriter at 2 freelancing sites, and I make $1000/month there too.
I don’t see any reason y I should write perfect english here,
anyway, u r pointing many mistakes in me, but the reason is that u dont have a solid answer to my question, I can understand.

Anyway, before we talk about anything else, I would like to except ur challenge and I will now show u 3 things,
a scan of my degree, my income statement, and my profile at the freelancer site.
This will stop u from pointing out things that r not related to this situation.

2007-08-18 10:59:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

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2016-10-10 12:16:05 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

No.

You can disprove it though. The bible claims that pi = 3. In fact it is not. Hence god does not exist. QED.

First Kings, chapter 7, verses 23 and 26.

2007-08-18 11:42:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

aw, come awn mate. God is a product of faith and cultural belief rather than science

2007-08-18 10:57:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

no

2007-08-18 10:51:53 · answer #9 · answered by careyschwartz 2 · 2 0

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