No offense intended but why the heck did they have to suspend digging to rescue the trapped miners down below just because a few members of the rescue team got killed. In my opinion i think there should be people still alive down there. There are many cases where miners are rescued after many days. I know it would need a lot of work and effort but saving lives is a great achievement. Just because people died during rescue doesnt mean they will have to quit...
2007-08-18 00:39:43 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in News & Events ➔ Current Events
The reason why i would want them to go on is because if they claim to have evidence that the miners should still be alive due to some Oxygen left then they could possibily make it.
2007-08-18 00:42:36 · update #1
What the heck are the Americans going to help the peruvians when they should save lives that are ingreater danger first...Its complete hipocracy!!! I tell you!!
2007-08-18 00:52:01 · update #2
By the way how long will it take for people to go without food??? I think that what they shouldnt have done is wasting all that precious time at first only to send a microphone to see if there are alive. They should have started the rescue dig immidiately..
2007-08-18 00:54:44 · update #3
Maybe you aren't watching the same news reports that I have been watching. They DID start the dig immediately. That is what caused the three to be killed. Where did you think they were at? Standing around twiddling their thumbs? Until they can find a way to secure the walls as they go in, they should call off the search or there will be more miners killed trying to rescue the six that are originally buried. As long as the mine is still settling like it is, there is no way to secure the walls as they go in.
It is apparent to me that you are neither a miner or a rescue worker. You would never ask such a question that in my translation says, "why don't more people get in there an die to rescue the six that are lost"?
"Since the first mine collapse, rescue teams had tunnelled about 250m towards the trapped miners, with about 350m to go, when the latest accident happened at 1835 (0035 GMT) on Thursday. "
2007-08-18 01:29:04 · answer #1 · answered by VetSupporter 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The problem are these:
- They don't know on where the trapped miners are, the trapped miners aren't where they supposed to be, either they moved or crushed or 'something' grabbed them.
- The mine enviroment currently might not be safe, it's better to wait until new safer ways to rescue can be devise.
As for living without food.
Roughly maybe around a month at maximum.
They still need water though.
As for sending a microphone first.
It's not a waste of time, they are trying to find out where the trapped miners are and whether they are still alive. They are doing the correct thing in the military, locating friendlies and establishing communication.
Once they have located the trapped miners, then they can dig a tunnel to the trapped miners.
What is a waste of time on the other hand is to dig a tunnel immediately without knowing where are the trapped miners.
As for Peruvian situation versus mine situation.
I think that the officials (the mining company, the government, the mass media, etc) are reluctant to divulge on what really happened in that mine.
They are trying to blame this on 'safety violations' and 'bad mining', when the truth is probably actually lies on those anomalous 'seismic' vibrations.
So the officials would prefer to cover up this as a case 'safety violations' and 'bad mining', and then move on to the sitution on Peru and elsedwhere.
2007-08-18 08:25:59 · answer #2 · answered by E A C 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hi,
the decision to stop was not made just because of the death of the would-be rescuers, though that must have seriously affected the decision.
Stopping the rescue attempt earlier had been discussed with strong arguments for both viewpoints.
At some point many searches are called off because it is felt there is no chance of rescuing anyone alive. Very often the decision is made purely on financial grounds (the sheer cost of helicopter running for air/sea rescue, for instance) in this case it IS felt that there is very little chance that any miners are still alive.
If you were a friend or relative of any of the trapped miners it is natural you would want the rescue attempts to continue...but, sadly, men have already died in attempting to save these trapped miners. The relatives and friends of these brave people need consideration, too.
And, on a purely logical (as opposed to an emotional) note...if , say, two miners were saved at this point who would say 'it was worth it?' The relatives of the dead rescuers? Of course not...The relatives of the saved men...of course.
And what if another death or multiple deaths were caused in a continuing a consequently fruitless rescue attempt...would their deaths be considered 'worth it?'
Just be glad YOU didn't have to make the call...there is no black and white rule for decisions in such finely balanced predicaments as this.
Cheers,
BobSpain
2007-08-18 08:06:59 · answer #3 · answered by BobSpain 5 · 6⤊ 0⤋
I hate to sound cruel on this, but facts are facts. And, here's a key one.
Remember the first hole that was put in 2-3 days after the initial accident? The oxygen content only showed 7%. The oxygen content of air is 20%. You can live indefinitely at 15%, but not below that. The second hole was only about 150 feet from the first one. They announced the oxygen content to be "OK." But, what they didn't say is that they were pumping compressed air in BEFORE they took air quality samples. In other words, they have no idea what the oxygen content was in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th holes PRIOR to them pumping in air. There is no real reason to believe it was better than the first reading (7%). In other words, I believe the miners ran out of air in a few hours.
I think the longest time for a rescue on record is 9 days.
2007-08-19 12:29:00 · answer #4 · answered by jdkilp 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think there must have been a lot of experts looking into all possibilities of this. I hope so anyway. Its a very sad situation. It seem so much shifting of the earth is going on down there from natural and mining procedures that it would be a wasted attempt to continue. Getting more people killed wont bring any of these men home.
Sometimes a missing person search has to be called off,, I think that is always done reluctantly same as this. No one ever wants to quit looking or digging but the time does come......
2007-08-18 09:59:46 · answer #5 · answered by ncgirl 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They quit digging underground because after the collapse it has been decided that the ground is unstable, and their underground stabilization techniques do not seem to be capable of holding up the ground so they are still drilling for the miners because it is too unsafe to send any other miners underground to dig. When the ground keeps collapsing down on them anyways they don't really make it in any further anyways, and when it puts other miners in danger why risk it? If they are able to find another safe way to continue mining underground they will, but so far no safe way has been found.
2007-08-19 18:45:38 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Boy, that would be a hard call! No matter what they do, someone will be upset at that decision. They just showed on tv how the rescuers died..awful. The wall and ceiling collapsed and just shoved the rescuers off their tracks. A brother to a trapped miner is on now and said the fourth hole drilling should be done sometime today. Now's a good time for all Christians to send up a prayer again for all of those involved. And for all the tragedy victims worldwide! How blessed we are to able to be here discussing instead of being a victim ourselves!
2007-08-18 09:26:32 · answer #7 · answered by dawnUSA 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
huh? it seems to me that you have a problem with logical reasoning. how many people would you like to see dead in that mine? Is 9 not enough? Every time they have resumed digging there were more collapses and I think it would be accurate to say that resumming the digging would be a suicide mission for the other miners. What I don't understand is why are the families of the trapped miners so damned selfish? Why do they expect other people to go and give their lives to rescue their relatives when chances of them being alive at this point are extremely low?
2007-08-23 12:53:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
bobspain, could not have said it better!!
Also, i think they predict the mountain to move again. I read somewhere that it was colllapsing in slow motion. Unfortunately the rescue operation has become far to risky. And although I agree that even the smallest glimmer of hope should be pursued...I don't think it should be at the risk of another three brave men. It's a sad story and may they all R.I.P
2007-08-18 08:34:56 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is very difficult to answer a serious question when I look at your avatar & name........That is the cutest one I have ever seen on Answers & I have been here since the beginning. You are toooooooo precious.
I agree with you on the miners. I have not seen TV tonight but I didn't realize this morning that they were going to stop altogether. Those miners could still be alive. I can't believe they won't continue on.
2007-08-19 01:42:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋