Who lied to whom about WMD in Iraq prior to the invasion?

Question

I had an interesting chat with a military intel officer who had recently returned from Iraq. For what it's worth, I thought I'd share the info he related to me with you.
I had asked this officer about the misinformation regarding the WMD in Iraq prior to the invasion. What he told me was surprising.
The intel about the WMD in Iraq came directly from Saddam Hussein himself. Our military had hacked onto Saddam's private phone lines and had been monitoring his conversations with his generals for years. During these conversations, on what Saddam thought was a secure line, our military listened in on his conversations about WMD development and deployment.
Thru the years, Saddam had several generals executed for failures in developing the weapon systems Saddam wanted. Saddam's weapons development program was going nowhere until a certain general, whose name I didn't get, was appointed the task. After that man took charge great strides were reported to Hussein. This progress was backed up with gadgets and activity that was spotted on our spy satellites. Saddam was convinced over time by this general that Iraq possessed a ready system of WMD.
According to the intel officer I spoke with, they even monitored Saddam ordering his general to use the WMD on our troops when the invasion began. The general stalled Hussein up to the last minute by telling Saddam of repeated technical problems that were preventing the firing of the weapons.
The conclusion of military intelligence at the Pentagon was that this general simply lie to Hussein about his progress with WMD so he wouldn't be executed like the others who came before him.
This info about wiretapping Hussein's secure lines has not been released to the public because of the problems that happened during the Reagan administration. Some of you should recall the incident during Reagan's term when 2 Russian migs shot down a US airliner over Korea. Reagan shocked the world by releasing the cockpit conversations of the Russian pilots. Up to that point, the Russians had no idea we could monitor their secure com lines. The Russians upgraded their security, and it took years for our guys to hack back into it.

So there's the revelation. An Iraqi general lied to Hussein about building WMD to save his behind. Saddam believed him. Our intel officers believed him. And President Bush believed our intel officers.

Althought I am not a Bush supporter, it is at least good to know Bush did not lie about the WMD. He was acting on what seem to be information from the horse's mouth.

Any thoughts?

As I mentioned, I am not a Bush supporter and still think his administration is completely incompetent. I no longer believe Bush lied about WMD based on my conversation with this officer.

Answer 1

So why did the military have to hack into his phone lines to get info that he was telling his people on TV while holding up some painted mason jar lids claiming them to be nuclear detonators?

Our government knew he had biological weapons, because the cultures came directly from the ATCC culture collection in Aurora, IL., and authorized by Reagan's state department.

our government knew he had chemical weapons, because the Reagan admin supplied him the "dual purpose" farm chemicals and the airplanes to deliver them, despite Iranians claiming he was using them as chemical weapons.

tell me again why they needed to hack his phone lines to find out anything.

Answer 2

England, Tony Blair, in particular, and England's Intelligence OPS/agents told USA, Mr. Bush about the weapons of mass destruction in the first place, hence a good reason to go to war against Saddam Hussein, and those WMD were there, and some may still be. It isn't hard to move such things around in a wide desert with out being spotted by anyone. If you want to hide, even more than in a forest, a desert is even easier. It took satellites 8 years to detect the mass (hidden) graves of some of the innocent Iraqi people that Saddam Hussein murdered, and had buried, in the vast desert. I think Satellites are better than a human eye, don't you? Regardless, England was right! Anthrax was found in Iraq in enough quantities to kill hundreds of people, among others. Nobody lied.

Answer 3

That's interesting because the soldiers I saw interviewed said that they were all geared up with gas masks and defensive gear to protect them from WMD's if they were fired at them. They were told to keep them ready at all times. Now mind you, this is right before the invasion and when they were right outside the borders of Iraq in the south. As soon as they crossed over the border of Iraq, they were told to put this defensive gear away because they wouldn't need it and that there were no WMD's.
I think it's obvious that Cheney cooked the books on intelligence and this is all well documented. There was no yellow cake, and the only Iraqi lying was Chalibi. Saddam didn't have WMD's and he knew it. he let the UN inspectors in and those inspectors found nothing. And, the UN inspectors knew he didn't have anything because it was all destroyed during the 1990's.

I honestly don't think this soldier knows the entire truth either.

Answer 4

Interesting, but I can't prove what you say is accurate. Still, at the very least it's an embarrassment to Bush when he parades around the country claiming we must go to war with Iraq in a pre-emptive bid to prevent him from using WMDs on us, when in fact none were found.

I don't solely blame Bush, Clinton left reams of paper behind detailing Saddam's activities (not blaming Clinton here either, just stating the facts), and the CIA's Intel confirmed the same thing. Congress seemed to believe the same thing as well.

Answer 5

Even if Bush actually believed that Sadam had WMD, there is no question that he lied about it.

Remember 540 tons of Sarin and Mustard gas ready for deployment in 45 minutes and these satellite photos have circles and arrows showing the exact location?

Remember the two burned out sheep dip trucks that were touted as "Mobile Chemical Weapons Labs?"

Remember the "weapons grade material processing tubes" that were the wrong size and had "76mm Rocket" stamped on them?

The whole "Nigerian Yellowcake" business and the outing of a CIA agent as a warning to anyone else who bore bad news?

While we may have had those intercepts, we also had inspection teams on the ground finding nothing more than old gas shells that had been improperly disposed of.

Answer 6

I dont think of it replaced into unavoidably an outright lie, extra of a hinting at 0.5-truths and distorted info. yet there are various human beings now, which comprise Senator Durbin of Illinois, stepping forward and asserting that there have been surely, 2 gadgets of intelligence being released on the comparable time. One set, released to the yank human beings by ability of the White abode, claimed Saddam had WMD's and claimed there replaced into an Iraq-Al Queda connection. the different set, given to the Senate, confirmed that there replaced into surely, little or no evidence to assist going to warfare with Iraq. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, and all of the others who voted for the warfare did so because of fact for political reasons. They have been afraid that opposing the then-time-honored George Bush could harm their possibilities of prevailing in the subsequent election, so as that they went alongside with it besides the actuality that they knew extra desirable. In my ideas that disqualifies them enthusiastic relating to the Presidency. And now, the Congressional Democrats are intentionally letting the warfare proceed and the area worsen and worse, so as that they might use it against the GOP in the subsequent election. in basic terms watch Clinton and what shes asserting. The Democrats have been given a mandate by ability of the yank human beings to cease the warfare, and the superb they might do is a non-binding decision and a meaningless timetable bill? Please. i understand extra desirable. Theyre making a susceptible tutor of opposing Bush, and that they understand previous to time that hes going to veto something they do. So now, Clinton is already placing the point with issues like: "we are able to easily wish the President will pay attention to us", "that's Bush's warfare" and "This President is stubbornly refusing to alter direction". there are relatively some issues she and the different Democrats might desire to be doing to end the warfare, yet no, they see a assured political win in all this carnage and destruction. And that still disqualifies them for the Presidency. enjoying political video games with human lives is disgusting in my opinion.

Answer 7

Well, if nothing else, you're claiming to have committed treason by revealing a secret intelligence gathering program. Hope you enjoy your time locked up as an enemy combatant.

Don't worry. I have no doubt that you made this all up. Especially since the only thing we were shown photographs of to support the claims of WMDs were trucks and aluminum tubes, nothing that would have made even Saddam think that Saddam had WMDs.

Answer 8

Saddam. The weapons are now being stored in Syria.

Answer 9

The World Governments.

Airliner incident involved monitoring Unsecured radio transmissions.

Answer 10

I find this story to be completely implausible. Would a real "intell" officer tell you something that's been a secret up to now? It's a desperate attempt to shore up a case for war that had been completely fabricated by some guy who's not happy that the world has learned it was all a fraud.

And that "someone" might be you.