Do you think it's the result of the debates? His naive foreign policy statements? She just keeps gaining ground. Is there anything Obama can do to stop the Hillary Clinton freight train?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state...
CA: 49% to 19%
FL: 41% to 18%
Michigan: 32% to 16%
New Jersey: 46% to 20%
Nevada: 33% to 19%
NH: 33% to 24%
In two states, Iowa and SC, she is ahead, but only by the margin of error.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...
2007-08-17
07:00:08
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hooter:
Get more money? He already has more money in his coffers than Hillary, that hasn't made a difference as of yet.
2007-08-17
07:07:18 ·
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notyou:
Edwards is so far behind both of them I didn't even bother posting his numbers. What's your theory behind you thinking he can beat either of them?
2007-08-17
07:08:40 ·
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Deep Thought:
That was interesting, but I have to wonder how it can be that the Republican Party is still organized enough for this "plan." They've become divided and are still trying to find a candidate that isn't "None of the Above."
Also, it strikes me that everyone who claims the Republicans will key on Clinton with so much success don't take into consideration the determination of the Democratic Party to match their efforts with their own determination and strategy. I think what you point about the last 16 years is what is going to hurt the Republicans, not Hillary. People are sick to death of the Republican's rehashing of the Clinton witch hunts of the 90's. I don't think they're going to get a whole lot of leverage depending on those tactics again. But, that's just my opinion of course. I'm sure we're going to get the chance to find out. It's likely that she will be the nominee, though nothing is set in stone yet, as you pointed out.
2007-08-17
08:30:54 ·
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Alias:
I appreciate your analysis about this campaign, you obviously put a lot of thought into it.
But we do disagree on two key points. Hillary's negatives have declined sharply, even from six months ago. If you want to point to polls, the Newsweek Poll from the beginning of July showed her negative has gone down to 34%. That's a significant drop. I
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19623564/site/newsweek/
The other point is that I think Clinton is far and above the best candidate available to us from either party.
2007-08-17
08:38:57 ·
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Obama is extremely inexperienced and people are beginning to see through the empty celebrity status that liberals bestowed on him.
PREDICTION: Hillary is going to get the Democratic nomination.
Period.
2007-08-17 07:05:54
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answered by Still Beautifully Conservative 5
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I think it's too early for her to write her Nomination speech just yet. How many months are we out before the first primary? At least 3-4 from here. And no one has really been spending the money yet so I don't think the 2 to 1 margins will hold in all of those states.
What Obama and Edwards for that matter need to do is stay on point. Hilary Clinton is the establishment candidate in this party. She's going to be safe, well coached and rarely will go off topic without a lot of practice. That kind of rigidity will catch up with her, either here in the primaries or in the general election when the Republicans can start opening up on her with all the mud they've accumulated over the last 16 years.
Speaking of the canned attacks waiting for Hilary, does anyone else think that her meteoric rise in all of the polls might in some way be a set up? I mean, if I was a Republican startegist, I would want to run against a known commodity where I could easily marginalize them and show that they have no new ideas. I would then do what I could, to influence the other party to put my opponent (target) in the race against me. Manipulating poll numbers is far too easy. You just have to know what to ask. The Republican party is smart enough to do this. If Clinton waltzes into the nomination with very few speedbumps then I wouldn't be surprised if every nasty thing that Mrs. Clinton ever did in life will be broken down to 30 sec. soundbites and broadcast 4 times an hour in commercials.
2007-08-17 07:23:08
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answered by Deep Thought 5
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Remember that all the headlines 4+ years ago, months before the first vote was taken, was about how Dean had it locked up and it was a mere formality to go through the process.
Polls mean nothing at this point, and with so many candidates still in it, no one has the time to really tell voters where they stand on anything.
Let me know how things stand after a primary date or two, then we'll talk.
As far as how thing stand now, the Clinton's have a lot of experience at running successful national-level campaigns. They're simply good at it.
2007-08-17 07:26:51
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answered by ? 7
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Obama's subject is the comparable as Edwards' subject. They the two inspirational audio device yet have not any substance. Hilary Clinton for sure has some adventure it relatively is proper to being president. the different Democrat with staggering credentials is my own prominent, invoice Richardson. he's the only Democrat working who's been interior the management in Congress, served interior the cabinet or made distant places coverage (and he's done all 3).
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I think it has a lot to do with the "invade Pakistan" mantra. From what I gather, the Republicans are opposed to it because Pakistan is an ally. And the Dems don't want yet another war.
Sorry about the generalizing. I'm sure there are a few stragglers on either end of the spectrum who believe the opposite of what category I've hastily thrown them into.
2007-08-17 07:17:10
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answered by Lily Iris 7
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Not Obama's failings. It is the power of the Clinton political machine. They have been at this game for decades and have powerful friends to boot. It is a shame that only the powerful and wealthy, no matter how crooked they may be, are allowed to run this nation.
If Hillary becomes the nominee, you can have the Dem party. Hillary Clinton is simply the same DC song with a different title and I've had it with their lyrics.
2007-08-17 07:15:23
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answered by Chi Guy 5
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Polls at this stage are notoriously about name recognition and, even more so, about lack of diligence on the part of voters polled. This is why Iowa is so close - they never reflect the national polls because they're too busy taking it seriously. As for NH, a 9-point lead for a putative front-runner this early is slim, historically speaking. That's not a knock on Clinton, just an observation based on watching for what is now 8 (ee gads!) presidential elections for me.
But your question was about Obama, specifically. I agree that Obama is not proving to be the guy to be the counter-Clinton. I don't know why that is, but I'm inclined to think that his foreign policy statements have come across as, if not actually naive, just sort of trying too hard to show that he's a "different thinker". In other words, Obama is not so naive policy-wise as he is politics-wise. (I *do* think Obama has shown an ability to hit back *quickly* when challenged; he IS showing that he can't be Swift-boated like our last nominee. And yes, Clinton is showing this resilience too.)
Still, I think Hillary's numbers really can't grow much more - perhaps NO more, given her national negatives are 45% (just giving you the facts per the polls). The Democratic field is ripe for a shake-up. Obama is just seen as too new, too unknown, and in hindsight he probably should NOT have run this year. Edwards is a terrific public policy thinker, but I'm of the opinion that he's just not being seen as presidential. Richardson shot himself in the foot when he said that homosexuality is a choice (which is no more relevant to the Presidency than is the death penalty, but still). Kucinich and Gravel are Kucinich and Gravel. Which leaves Biden and Dodd - both of whom I like a lot, AND a lot better than Clinton... and yet they really don't have anything that distinguishes them from Clinton, as both will be as corporatist as she in the White House.
So, while Dems in general have been celebrating their field and watching in glee as Republicans mope about theirs, I'm beginning to adopt the Republican mindset on it - which is to say that I'm increasingly disappointed in the Democrats in that they are settling on someone (Clinton) whom I think is a most uninspiring, uncreative, ho-hum version of politics as I can imagine. As I've said here before, she's the Walter Mondale of 2008.
2007-08-17 08:03:41
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i already know this is race vs gender...even if none of these people are good enough candidates , you see black men wishing obama and you see women wishing hilary would win, but then again im not sure obama will won seeing how the country is only 12 percent black...and women are usually on other womens side no matter the race, so i think hilary will win the popularity votes seeomg how women out number men and how everybody is against the republican party now days ( i am also lol) it will be interesting to see who wins the democrat party
2007-08-17 07:10:40
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answered by one1hype 1
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People are looking past the initial media packaging and figuring out, there is not much experience there. Wonder if CNN thought about that before the Obama specials that ran over and over last year.
2007-08-17 07:05:59
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answered by garyb1616 6
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Clinton simply has a more powerful political network and machine running with her.
2007-08-17 07:17:11
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