If you saw Michael Moore's movie "SICKO"?

Question

OK, only for people who actually watched the movie and disagree with it's content.

Can anyone provide SPECIFIC proof that refutes any of the information contained in the movie?

Please don't tell me he's a left wing nut or that he's fat or a propagandist. I'm not interested in name calling, in only leads me to believe that his information is factual because attacking the messenger is a sign that you can't attack the message.

I'm not saying the movie is an perfect documentary, I really don't know enough about health care to come to that conclusion. But I'd like to hear if anyone has information to prove it wrong.

pinhed_1976 ..you lose. Again, you couldn't refute any of the info so you attacked the man. Rerading comprehension is not your string suit I guess.

FOX news called Sicko "brilliant and uplifting" so I don't really see this as a bipartisan issue.

Answer 1

sorry i haven't seen it but I work for a health care company and i can't even get my son's claims paid... He has had pneumonia three times and is only 7!! They said his diagnostic tests to see if he has asthma is not medically necessary!! Of course, being a worried mother i had it done anyway and yes he does have asthma! He was in the hospital for a month with chest tubes and 60% oxygen!!

they also will not cover my surgury to get a pace makers placed into my stomach because i have gastropariese. IF i was diabetic it would be covered but i'm not so they will not cover it! the only difference between me and a diabetic is they know why it happened to them and don't know it's happened to me.

Like every other big company it's all about money!!!

Answer 2

You are a very weird person, but you offer up some good points. Fact is, MM plays fast and loose with facts. In the making of his movie, Moore took his cameras to Cuba but, alas, failed to mention that, according to The World Health Organization, the health system in the USA is better than in Fidel's socialist paradise. I'm sure Moore's oversight was accidental. The same pattern repeats itself in his other movies. Since the American public usually accepts what it sees without questioning it, perceptions easily become the new reality...and don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!

Answer 3

Mike, you ALREADY pay taxes and social security, which is taken "by force". So that's not really the point. The point is what it's going for- surely health care needs to be paid for anyway, may as well pay it to the government and cut out the middle man, saves money for everyone. You pay a really high premium right now for have the luxury to choose whether or not to pay for health care- whether you do or don't.

To answer the original question, I have never heard any factual criticisms of this film. And watching the "cons" squirm here is really quite amusing.

Answer 4

I work at a level 1 trauma center.. I use to be a scrub tech. I have also lived in Europe. I agree that the movie is right on the mark. The Doctors I have worked with ***** and moan all the time about how they have to fight to get coverage for people in need. My grandmother who is on a fixed income has to ask her Dr for free samples when she see's him because she cant always afford her meds. ( she is on medic aid and a fixed income)
Its a sad day when we can spend millions to fight a war of lies, send aging shuttle into space but we cant get medical coverage for all our citizens. Heck we even have clinics for illegals.. but if your a hard working, (working poor( family in the country you go with out health coverage.. and then get burried in debt or worse when an emergency truly comes up.

(there was an article in the news yeasterday where a man threw his termanily ill wife off the 4th floor balcony because he couldnt afford her health care anymore.. thats desperate.. but I doubt he's only one who has assisted in the death of someone in a similiar situation)

Michael Moore nailed this one right on the head!

Answer 5

LOL....I have to laugh at the answers you are receiving. You are right, they either attack the man personally because of his weight or they state some outlandish, FOX News induced falsehood that such a plan would cost American taxpayers huge amounts of money in added taxes. They fail to realize the obvious. I currently pay about 20% of my gross for a family healthcare plan which does not include dental or vision (I pay 30% of the cost and my employer pays the other 70%). Friends in Canada that have lived both in the US and Canada tell me they pay about 8% more in federal taxes in Canada than they did in the US. So I could save 20% of my gross income, have complete coverage including dental and vision, and pay 8% more in federal taxes. That looks like a 12% gross savings to me. And that does not even count for the 70% of the premium my employer would save for each and every employee they have. In the long run I save money, employers save money, if the rich still want to pay for their own private healthcare policies they are allowed to do that....seems like veryone wins.

Answer 6

Proof? There's nothing to prove wrong, he made a suggestion to a system he thinks is better for the United States. Suggestions aren't factual. He wants to take large amounts of money from the American people to fund a health care system. He calls it a free system, that is just rhetoric, nothing is ever free. The money to finance this "free system" will be taken from tax payers by force. If they do not pay they will be put into cages (prison). That's the real argument, is it worth having a health care system that is funded by a form of robbery? Is this consistent with the Constitution or Declaration of Independence? Liberty is more important than health care. He did a great job of avoiding this whole side of the issue, which is the main flaw of the documentary.

EDIT: To the guy who talked about taxes, it is irrelevant how much money you would save. I make 32k a year with 90+% of my health coverage paid by my employer, and I would be paying significantly more under a France, Canada, or England type system. In France they pay 60% of your income at about 100k a year. You would really save money this way? In any event, the tax rates are irrelevant, the fact that you are Forced to pay them at all is the real crime. Taking money away from someone while threatening violence to them is wrong, no matter who does it. If that's the only way American citizens can get health care then humanity is pathetic.

Answer 7

What's sick is that people spend money to support the rantings of this fiction writer. Anyway being a military brat, my family has had it's share of socialized medicine. The old addage you get what you pay for rings true. Is definitely true with socialized medicine. Anyway I don't know what everyone in the Democratic party is complaining about anyway. People on Public Assistance and people at or below the poverty level recieve socialized medicine in the form of private medicine paid for by the tax payer. ( Medicaid)

PS- Are you quoting Susan Estrich an editorial writer for Fox News- Who campaigned for Michael Dukakis. Editorals are not the expressed view of a News Network.

Answer 8

From what I've heard...haven't seen it
It was a 360 from the way FH911 was done he actually showed class in this film and I may actually watch it one day.

If this statement is true then his career might be saved

Answer 9

I haven't seen it, but I know his style, and what he himself has said in interviews. It's not that he's presenting false information. It's that he's not only leaving out evidence supporting the opposition to his views, but he manipulates the evidence and interviews to make it support his point. And he has said this himself.

Answer 10

I may watch it when it hits the dollar store. If Moore chooses in the future to make a documentary then I might see it earlier.