Can anyone explain how killing terrroists "only creates more terrorists"?

Question

As usual, the U.S. lamestream media hasn't reported the good news from Tora Bora. 50 terrorists waxed:

http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&id=41148

Obviously even on a "good day" like today it's really a bad day, according to libs. We killed 50 and created, oh, let's say 75 new terrorists, so we end the day 25 in the hole, right?
Anyone care to explain how this works, exactly?

Or is this some magical property of terrorists only in Iraq? Is it only terrorists in Iraq who are possessed of this Hydra-like cut-one-head-off and-two-grow-back in it's place property?

Answer 1

They count the 72 virgins the terrorists get in paradise as "new terrorists". So the actual mathematical formula is 1 dead terrorist = 72 new terrorists.

Answer 2

There are three kinds of people - the ones that love you, the ones that hate you, and the ones that can go either way. If you accidentally bomb someone's brother, you might turn him from the kind that can go either way into the kind that hate you. I think some of this is happening in Iraq, but I think a lot of the increase in the number of terrorists there is that the conflict is acting as a magnet for all the terrorist-types in the Middle East.

Answer 3

It is important to specify the dimension in which Muslim extremists are actually ..extreme. They're extreme in their faith. They're extreme in their devotion to the literal word of the Qur'an & the Hadith (the literature recounting the sayings & actions of the prophet) and this leads them to be extreme in the degree in which that they believe that modernity & secular culture are incompatible with moral & spiritual health.

Muslim extremists are certain that the exports of Western culture are leading their wives & children away from allah. They also consider our unbelief to be a sin so grave, that it merits death, whenever it becomes an impediment to the spread of Islam. These sundry passions are not reducible to hatred, in any ordinary sense.

Most Muslim extremists have never been to America, or even met an American. And they have far fewer grievances with Western Imperialism than is the norm around the globe. Above all, they appear to be suffering from a fear of contamination. As has been widely noted, they're also consumed by feelings of humiliation. Humiliation over the fact that while their civilization has foundered; they have watched an allah-less, sin-loving people become the masters of everything they touch. This feeling is also a product of their faith.

Answer 4

Here's another perspective on the turmoil in the Middle East:

Political Correctness is the Incubator of Islamism
by Amil Imani

14 Feb, 2007

Time and again we are told by the politically correct “experts” not to worry about Islam posing a threat to our way of life. We are repeatedly lectured that only a very small minority of Muslims are troublemakers who are giving the peaceful masses of Muslims a bad name. We are also informed that the terrorists, who happened to be Muslims, are the disaffected and the young. And not to worry, since as the fire of youth turns to ashes of old age the rebellious will mellow, as they always have.
With heavy assurances like this, coming from so many know-it-all authoritative figures, we can sleep soundly without the aid of sleeping pills. After all, people reason that these pundits are “experts” whose job is to know and tell it like it is. Those who voice contrary views must be a bunch of racist, alarmist hate mongers. Who is right?

Wouldn’t be more prudent to let the facts settle the matter, rather than blindly accepting either position? Of course it would, except for one huge problem. In the face of threats, people tend to go to the mind’s medicine cabinet and take a few denial and rationalization pills, in the same way that it is the aspirin bottle they turn to when a headache strikes. Why not? We are the Easy Species. We love effortless, quick and simple solutions. And that’s not invariably bad. It has given us all kinds of labor and time saving devices.

Yet, the Islam problem is very real and deadly. Neither the pronouncements of the experts, nor the tranquilizing pills of the mind can make it go away. It is here and it shows every sign of imposing itself on us.

Europe is already badly infected with Islamism. It is the coal-miners’ canary. It is telling us that the next stop is America. We must act and act now. We must not sacrifice our cherished way of life and the lives of our children at the altar of political correctness: the incubator of Islamofascism.

Answer 5

Yes there is some truth in that statement --

What most people don't understand is the psyche of the Muslim mind.

When someone is killed (terrorist or not), their family members and friends are in grief.

At that time of their sorrow, the Muslim priests/mullahs step in and use the death as evidence of the 'big bad wolf called USA' and they instigate more violence by instituting jihad.

The children, brothers, nephews of the dead terrorist now take up arms in revenge for the religion and their loved one.

Revenge is high on the list of the Muslims, especially when it comes to someone insulting or threatening their religion.

BTW.. I am not a Muslim.. this is what I have seen first hand.

Answer 6

More like: we killed 50 and created, oh let's say 5,000. Imagine (if you're capable) a country with more firepower than ours decided that the U.S. was harboring terrorists that posed a threat to their national security. So they sent a large military force to overthrow our government, set up a new one and clean the "terrorists" out of our cities...by killing them. Of course, since they couldn't tell these terrorists from our regular citizens a fair amount of collateral damage would occur and some (OK, thousands) of our innocent civilians would die. Do you think the U.S. citizens in general would say "Man, I'm glad those guy came over here to get rid of those nasty terrorists for us."? Or would it be more like, "Who the f*** do these a**h****s think they are? Maybe if enough of us start killing these !@#%^%#@ they'll go back where they came from."?

Answer 7

I've not seen any actual numbers supporting that more terrorists are created as we kill other terrorists.

Seeing as that Libs LOVE to post numbers or are always demanding proof of anything instead of just using the brains they were born with, I'm quite surprised that they make these claims without proof.

Is there a census bureau in Iraq taking these numbers down?

I look at it much like Nazism. While there were many at first, it didn't take but around four years after we joined the fight to turn the public support for Nazi Germany against the Nazi's. These were common German citizens that were getting bombed BY US constantly. While I'm sure they didn't like us all that much at the time, they also were intelligent enough to realize it was Der Fuhrer that brought this down on their heads to begin with.
Different conflict, same theory. However, I also give the common ordinary citizens of Iraq credit for being smart enough to also figure this out eventually.

I've been reading even in the mainstream media how many local citizens in Iraq are getting sick and tired of what Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations are doing to their country and are reporting them, taking up arms against them etc.

Also, by looking at the libs responses. Going by their logic, as tolerant as they are. They are saying that because of all the Muslims worldwide, they ALL have a potential to be terrorists.
What happened to their tolerance in this question? It suddenly disappeared. Isn't that generalizing? I thought they hated when one group generalizes another group because of their religion, political beliefs, etc?

ADD

Ah haaaaaaa!

I see our resident so called Air Force veteran/federal officer has entered the fray below. Many libs call supporters of what we are doing in Iraq "chickenhawk con cowards". But this guy uses it in every answer as well as always asking the point blank question, "why aren't you fighting in Iraq"?
So predictable. My guess is he got dishonorably discharged for drug use and is now a janitor at his local Federal Building.

Answer 8

These aren't all the causes of terrorism, but some of the root causes: living day-to-day in an occupied land, poverty, feelings of futility and hopelessness for any means to make a positive change.


There's also disenfranchisement... what good is it to finally get to vote if the government you voted for is not really yours and is falling apart? Religion... it's not a cause, but it does provide a powerful force to rally under. Any religion, Christian, Jewish, Islam can be, and has been, taken to extremes and manifested as terrorism. Many Palestinians are Christian, Israelis are Jewish, the IRA is Christian, the KKK and Army of God use Christianity... just to name a few.


For better or worse, Saddam kept the various factions 'in line'. The US went in to get Saddam, but had no plan for how to fill the vacuum when he was gone. Civil war broke out and the country continues to be occupied by US forces. The Iraqi people, although oppressed under Saddam, are still oppressed and even more so now. They've lost many of the basics that they used to have... steady supply of water, electricity, medical facilities have deteriorated, etc. etc. Iraq is now a breeding ground for terrorism. Another example is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that has been going on for at least forty years.


Does this mean I'm 'soft' on terrorism? NO! I just believe that one must know their enemy in order to be effective. That's why I don't believe that conventional warfare works against terrorism and even makes the circumstances worse. Conventional warfare isn't working in Iraq or Afghanistan, it didn't work in Vietnam against rebel forces and it didn't go well for the British either when we won our independence. 'Hands-on' intelligence and infiltration if possible, covert operations, special forces with snipers... Yes! Get the intell, strike fast and hard to get the terrorists, spare the civilians and get out fast... to me, that is a viable, possibly even a winning, strategy.

Answer 9

Maybe they give off spores when we kill them.

I find it ridiculous to think that the leftist apologists think that if we would just be nicer to them then we will not "create" more terrorists. These are people that have sworn to kill us and destroy or society. How can making nice with these animals be the solution.

If coddling is the answer why did it not work before we began fighting back. Other than sending out a few lawyers no action was taken until Afghanistan, yet the terrorist attacks continued.

Answer 10

A school housing terrorists is bombed by the military. Come to find out, there were kids inside and no terrorists. Who would have thought kids would be in a school.

You don't think family members of those kids or people in the community aren't going to snap.

Answer 11

Whether it's true or not, this patsy theory suggests that we just bury our heads in the sand and let radical Islam have it's way.
I'll bet that every time the police lock up someones mother, father, sister, brother, spouse, etc. for criminal behavior that it generates hatred towards the authority by those whe are close to the criminal, so does that mean we should stop arresting criminals?
I frankly don't care about the feelings of family members of some radical barbaric Jihadist who would gladly take the life of any innocent civilian or US soldier. When I read an article detailing our troops success in killing terrorists, I am happy. I would think only our enemies would not want our soldiers to succeed.