When will a much welcomed victory come in Iraq?

Question

When will we win, in your opinion, and when will our brave loyal soldiers no longer have to be in harms way over there?

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Answer 1

If there is any solid trend that could be derived from the history of humankind, it is that occupations NEVER work long term. Look at what happened to all British, Spanish and French colonies. Look at what happened to Germany 2 times in the last century. Look at Israel-Palestinian conflict, territories of former Soviet Union, all conquests of numerous European wars in the last thousand years...

The same exact thing happened over and over again with remarkable consistency: the occupying country had to withdraw earlier or later. There is only one way to hold on to the land: the occupying force must eliminate the entire population.

This war can never be won, and it was lost before the first shot was fired.

Answer 2

No one has yet defined win. How will we know we have won? Will Dubya stand on another ship and tell us the mission is accomplished again? Will Cheney tell us that the enemy is in the last throes of life? Please define win for us. I ask this over and over and over again and NOT ONE person has been able to define it. Sure we would all like to win. No one wants to lose anything but we first have to know how we know we have won. Without a definition we could be there 20 or 30 more years. Guys would be doing their 10th tour of duty while others are coming home from their 15th. The treasury would be broke and we would owe China and other countries all of Fort Knox and then some.

The best way for God to bless America is to enable us to get the heck out of there soon. We got rid of Saddam and his brats. Wasn't that the real reason for going in there? There were no WMD and we supposedly don't want their oil so that has to be it. We have done that. Besides the people of that part of the world have been settling their problems by themselves for over 3000 years. Why should now be any different? The outcome may not be to our liking but it is not any of our business.

Answer 3

A few things have to happen first.

1. Iraqi military has to become more agressive and effective. (happening at an accelerating rate)

2. Iran has to be stopped from supplying arms, training, and personnel to the fight.

3. Not required 100% but it would help more than you might belive as it would harm the moral of our enemy. The military needs to get the FULL support of our government. (With dems around not likely)

4. Terroists must be rooted out of their strongholds. (We are well underway. Many tribes that had been fighting with AQ Iraq are now actively fighting against AQ Iraq. Many parts of Iraq are now safer than our major cities. Yes, I know the liberal media will not tell you ANY of this except in little asides where you have to read or listen very carefully.)


In the end, I believe we should be able to begin scaling down our presence in Iraq within the next 8-12 months.

I would bet it will be sooner. Just listen to teh Dems if you want proof. They are changing thier tune subtly yet surely. Talking more about fighting to win etc. They are doing this because they KNOW that General Patreaus is likely to deliver a great deal of good news when he is scheduled to testify before congress this September.

In the words of a leading Democrat, If the report from General Patreaus is good then that would be bad for our party. (Said on CNN in the past few days.)

Answer 4

It's going to take a lot more than just US (or British) troops
to get a "victory" in Iraq (or Afghanistan). It's going to take a
lot more cooperation from their governments than they are
willing to give us.
Whereas Afghanistan's president, Hamid Kharrzai, is cred-
ible enough, the collected government officials of Iraq are a
very different--and very dark--story: although they do not out-
right support the terrorists networks we're trying to defeat,
they are, to a certain degree, at their mercy.
What it boils down to, it would seem to me, is a question of
(in a word) the same thing that dominates the government
here, in the United States of America: power.
But, to be a bit more specific, whereas here it's a matter of
corporate power, over there, it's religious power. (The head
of the terrorist network Hamas is an ordained cleric.)
So, when will we win? At the risk of sounding a bit negative,
I don't think "winning" is a possibility; learning to tame the
terrorist networks is, but winning a war isn't.
Some one said it several years ago. (Sorry I don't recall his
name.) But, whereas a popular belief amongst the public
is that finding Osama bin Laden and putting him to death--
like we did to Sadaam Hussein--is "the ultimate solution"
to the problem, even if we did succeed in doing that, "We
would win the battle, but not the war."

Answer 5

Win you say....
Well, I guess what means that we've won really.
Theres no clear cut "win" in the situation.
We can have a favorable outcome in which we avoid a civil war and Iraq creates a stable democracy.
Or
We could have a civil war that goes on and on ruining lives and ruining our reputation.
Or
Another "strong man" dicator will come to power and rule like Sadam.

Winning, in the way you mean it....unlikely

Answer 6

I don'nt know but all i can tell u is that everything has an end.Someday sometime soldiers will not be there but for sure in somewhere'else. Also is up to you what do you call victory? When osama is captured? when the tropps come home? or when the war ends?

Answer 7

I'm sorry to say that but u will never win
he only way to let the poor soldiers go back to their lands is to stand against ur government
couze it's the cause of all the problems in the world

Answer 8

Not until at least January 20, 2009. Victory in Iraq will require a commander-in-chief who understands, well, anything other than his own wants.

Answer 9

The only way to win would be to destroy the culture. See your Old Testament for details. Not even the Republicans are committed to this kind of winning.

So, rather than win, the questions should be, what are we attempting to accomplish in Iraq? Is it doable? If it isn't, then what?

Answer 10

"Victory" is now in the hands of Iraqi politicians and our foreign policies and NOT with the Military.

Our troops did their job and took Iraq in 3 weeks. The subsequnet failures have less to do with our soldiers and more about the occupation strategies (or lack thereof) that occurred post-War