What is "moderate" Islam?

Question

Does it reject the mass-murderer and pedophile Muhammad?

Does it reject his teachings of mass murder in the Koran?

pip, I realize that the Bible has some violent verses in it but (a) they're historical (b) Christians and Jews have stood up and said they reject the literal translation, which Muslims haven't, and (c) there's that little thing called the New Testament in which God does all his own wet work.

There's also the sheer difference in scope and scale - - the Koran is cover to cover violence and little but - - you have to go digging in the Bible to find a few violent passages among the peaceful ones.

Look folks, I don't like the ant-gay-marriage voters either but how can you equate that with suicide bombers?

"he'll tell you that a jihad is supposed to be an internal struggle against your own dark side."

REALLY? Then how come the Koran says those who DIE in that struggle will go straight to heaven??? How can you DIE from the internal struggle against temptation? You CAN'T. Jihad does NOT mean that - it means, just like the Koran SAYS it means, fighting to kill the infidel.

"There are no teachings of mass murder in the Koran, and if there are, please politely point them out to me, because I've never found them"

Then Pfo you are either stupid or blind.

Sura (2:191) - And slay them wherever ye find them,

Sura (2:244) - Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.



Sura (2:216) - Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.



Sura (3:56) - As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.

Sura (3:151) - Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority. This speaks directly of killing Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Sura (4:74) - Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.



Sura (4:76) - Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…



Sura (4:89) - They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks

Sura (4:95) - Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-



Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (8:15) - O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end.



Sura (8:39) - And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah



Sura (8:57) - If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.

Sura (8:59-60) - And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy



Sura (9:5) - So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them



Sura (9:14) - Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace...

Sura (9:20) - Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant. The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.



Sura (9:29) - Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Sura (9:41) - Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew


Sura (9:73) - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination



Sura (9:88) - But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.

Sura (9:111) - Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.



Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (25:52) - Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur'an). "Strive against" is Jihad, obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Sura (47:4) - So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)



Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious



Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah



Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."



Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.



Ishaq: 327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

"Please read Qur'an first before you make a false claim like that."

Well, I did, impiger, and the above shows that I'm right and you're wrong.

Answer 1

And remember ,they hate cartoons as well.

Answer 2

Of course we deny and condemn all the mass-murderer and other incomprehensible violent act.

Muhammad is God's apostle and he never taught us to eliminate what is considered as the infidel. Please read Qur'an first before you make a false claim like that. We are a religion which appreciate and acknowledge all the people in this material world regardless of their race or religion.

P.S. For the person who posted this question. So you think I overlook all of the long information that you have quoted from Qur'an above? Well I beg your pardon for that. You see conceptually, everyone have rights to interpret the inscription of the holy book in their own way and I know that people like you are attempting to wrongly contradict the faith our religion. As a Muslim I have spent more than 6 years studying my religion in depth, including the reading and interpretation of Qur'an. Based from my experience, I strongly deny the fact that Islam had taught us to follow such a violent act. And I don't think you are clear, I said 'read' the Qur'an entirely, not 'quoting' partially.

Answer 3

The moderate Muslims are the ones that knew enough to cheer in the house rather than out in the street on 9-11.

Answer 4

A better question is to ask muslims what their definition of "jihad" is.

Those who qualify their answer by clearly and vehemently rejecting the actions of muslim suicide bombers, hijackers and kidnappers could be considered "moderate". All others are either sympathizers or direct supporters of terrorism.

I suspect you will find precious few "moderate" muslims.

Answer 5

you're forgeting the worldwide isn't purely Jews, Christians and Muslims! Your e book makes no concession for every person exterior of those words apart from dying. Your holy textual content cloth makes allowances for the Jews and Christians, on account which you share their prophets out facet of that. Islam tolerates no person.

Answer 6

No such thing .

As the idiot christians say all the time one who is not strong in faith is not entering the kingdom of heaven . Falwell is right and watered down Christianity is the path to hell .

Answer 7

There are no teachings of mass murder in the Koran, and if there are, please politely point them out to me, because I've never found them. Moderate Islam is tolerant Islam, not the fanatical join-us-or-die attitude exhibited by Jihadists.

Answer 8

A group that believes you should yell "Die dogs" before you detonate your bomb.

Answer 9

Islam is closer to Christianity than you think. And there are different sects.
Monotheism
Qur'an (Bible)
Angels
Predestination
Resurrection
Judgement
Heaven

Answer 10

This is a question that needs to be asked and I don't have the answer.

Answer 11

There is no such animal as a "moderate" Muslim. It is a fact that most Mulims either support or sympathize with the murdering jihadists.