All illegal immigrants are criminals - how can you not agree with this? It's axiomatic!?

Question

kulak, 27% of federal prison inmates are illegal immigrants. The penalty for illegally coming here isn't prison, it's deportation - those people are in federal prison for crimes other than illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants comprise far less than 27% of the population. The proportion of illegals in prison has grown steadily with illegal immigration itself. Thus they ARE more prone to commit other crimes.

I'm not suggesting it's because a lot of them are Latino and that somehow Latinos are more prone to crime.

I'm suggesting that while the economies that the illegals come from are not free markets thus not doing as well as ours, thus resulting in unemployment of some good hardworking people, other unemployed foreigners are drop-outs / criminals, and they come here. Also the drug cartels have been "forward-integrating" so to speak - sending "employees" across the border to sell their product.

But you Libs go ahead and represent that I said Latinos are criminals. I said no such thing. In fact I think the whole "culture" argument against illegal immigration is wrong - - Latino culture is more traditionally American than modern PC culture - - All the Latinos I know like dark-skinned, large-breasted women, they like sports, they like red meat and beer. All things I like too!

I'm not even saying the answer is mass deportation.

I'm saying (a) when people refer to them as criminals, this is accurate and it isn't racist, (b) yes, we get a lot of the criminal element because the foreigners with jobs are less likely to uproot, and (c) the Krugman types should stop counting imported poor people as "poor Americans" and omitting the fact that 12 million poor people have come here illegally when they claim that the 3.5 million increase in poor people over the same period is somehow do to domestic economic policy rather than immigration policy or lack of it.

Answer 1

I guess it depends on how serious to take breaking the immigration law.... if you don't think it's a very serious offense you wouldn't call them a criminal.. after all we don't call a speeder a criminal.. though they are blatantly breaking the law. This isn't meant to be a pro/con immigration statement.. I'm just trying to rationalize the focus of your question.

Answer 2

I don't question that illegal immigrants are criminals due to the fact that they break immigration laws.

What I do have a problem with is when people make an emotional leap in logic, attempting to claim that illegal immigrants are somehow more prone to other sorts of crime than people in a similar socio-economic demographic.

Case in point, the recent killing of some people in New Jersey by a couple of illegal immigrants. Of all the killings that take place in New Jersey, and there are plenty, none has received recent national attention like this. Even this particular case was covered only locally until the revelation that the murderers were illegals. Then the national spotlight and 'Told you so!' commentary started up.

We need an immigration system that works. We need not give all illegal immigrants a free pass for being here illegally. BUT, it is absurd and ugly when people feel it necessary to scapegoat illegal immigrants for all things evil.

If there is a valid argument against illegal immigration as I believe there is, then that argument should be presented. Using baseless rhetoric in place of a valid argument will help nothing.

Note that I am responding more to a general trend than to your question in-particular. As I said, I don't question that illegal immigrants are criminals due to the fact that they break immigration laws.

Answer 3

Maybe we should lock up the politicians for not in forcing the law