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I'm answered a number of questions on Yahoo! answers about suicide, or in general about people not excited about living life. In almost every thread, roughly 80% of the responses are similar to this:

"You have some serious issues and you need professional help"

What I don't understand is why do we chastise people that find no joy in life, that obviously there must be something seriously wrong with someone not happy to be alive. I know there is this popular belief that life is a gift from God, and that it is far better to exist than to not exist. But what about the people that don't think life is a gift, but a curse. Why do we tell these people that the problem lies souly with them, and if they can't deal with it, then they have "issues". I am happy with my life, but I can understand why someone wouldn't be. Why can't someone just die if they choose to without being harassed about it?

2007-08-15 19:54:23 · 11 answers · asked by Martin S 2 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

This is the best way I could phrase this question, and I apologize for it being hacked together. I was just hoping to general discussion about the topic of suicide.

2007-08-15 19:55:51 · update #1

11 answers

Having wrestled with these issues during a couple of phases of my life, I came to the position that in some ways, suicide is one of the most immoral things one can do.
___A central theme behaving morally is behaving as if life is valuable. Since I'm human, and can affect others of my own species more frequently, more effectually, and more intimately than members of other species, I naturally value human life especially (though not exclusively). If I go through life treating every person as a valuable life, I'm not likely to treat them as means to my ends (cf. Kant), or in other ways that do them harm. But I should also value my own life, as well.
___The effects of suicide on surviving family members and friends can be even worse that the effects of having a friend or family member murdered. There is no behavioral statement one can make that more unambiguously devalues life than taking one's own, and large numbers of such statements affect the whole society that learns of them.
___But there's a silver lining to this hard moral approach. Once the question of suicide is off the table, then the troubles one goes through that motivate suicidal thoughts are cast in a different light. They don't raise the question, "Is this life worth living?" any more. Instead they become more meaningless suffering, and one can go about doing something about them, with the added psychic energy one gains from not wallowing in suicidal thoughts.
___Suicidal thoughts can provide a perverse temporary distraction from one's problems. And this distraction itself can prevent one from learning how to endure suffering undistracted, and to let it work its natural signaling and motivating functions that tell us something's awry, and pushes us to do something about it.
___Research has shown that the perception physical pain from similar wounds varies according to the meaning associated with that pain. Wounded U.S. soldiers in Vietnam, for instance, reported far lower levels of pain from equivalently-wounded persons in the U.S. Presumably the ticket home that a wound provided had a lot to do with this.
___The perception of emotional suffering can be worse if one associates it with a sign that one's life isn't worth living. Suicidal thoughts may seem to provide a fantasy of resolution, but taking them off the table categorically stops reinforcing the association of one's suffering with one's worthlessness, and this makes it a lot easier to conceive of doing something corrective on one's own behalf. Suffering rendered less meaningful is lighter suffering. Another benefit is ameasure of self-esteem that comes with seeing oneself as tough, capable of enduring suffering, and still able to function and to patiently make one's life better.
___If people grow up thinking of suicide as wrong and immoral, then when suffering arises (as it does, sooner or later, in every life) it is more automatic to deal with both the feeling and its causes in a more proactive and self-preserving manner. By projecting the idea that suicide is generally acceptable, we subject a lot of people to far worse suffering than they might otherwise experience.
___This isn't to say that there are no good reasons to commit suicide. Even homicide is seen as justified in cases of self-defense or war. Certain terminal conditions, say rapid-onset Alzheimer's, could provoke suicide that few would condemn. But for the most part, I think that stigmatizing suicide (at the very least) is a merciful policy that benefits those who would otherwise be the most prone to commit it.

2007-08-15 21:12:16 · answer #1 · answered by G-zilla 4 · 1 1

that is rather basic and maximum judgmental of folk asserting that hell is the end result if committing suicide. Suicide is extra, a lot complicated than that. Suicide ability the guy has been mentally ill for a whilst, and those ailments at time are worse than the actual ones. while our physique isn't feeling sturdy, a medicine or surgical operation fixes the concern and executed with it. psychological ailment isn't that straightforward, and the extra serious area is that it lingers for an prolonged, long term. in basic terms the fortunate ones get cured, and so, suicide is the end result while human beings can't handle their lives anymore. Marie Osmond's son is an occasion of this poor ailment. He replaced into the acceptable occasion of what mentally ill human beings is going by: An 'obvious' sturdy, 'popular' existence, and easily his close kin knew relating to the melancholy, the psychological ailment that finally took his existence. could God punish sending to hell those with maximum cancers or with any actual ailment? No. of direction no longer. psychological ailment is that: An ailment, a ailment additionally. So God could under no circumstances yet Ever deny His presence to everyone that replaced into ill, mentally or bodily. people who devote suicide have all my sympathy, my understanding, and all my heart.

2016-10-02 10:31:53 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Suicide is an intensely personal choice and no one should judge a person for deciding to end what they think is a miserable life. The people who preach about walking in someone else's moccasins do just that--talk in sanctimonious, pious, unctous tones, but don't listen to the person who is hurting. I've been grappling with this issue for awhile now. I've sat back and listened to everyone tell me how much better tomorrow is going to be. I've decided that if I'm gone, then it doesn't matter if there is a tomorrow. I won't know if I feel better or more likely will feel worse, but I do know I won't feel the pain I have now. If I've tried every option available to me--whether it's psychotherapy, medication, family intervention (if there's a reason to have it), talking to my spiritual advisor, whatever, I should be allowed to reserve the right to do what I have to, to mitigate the pain. Jean Harris was the headmistress of a private school in the 1970s who killed the Scarsdale Diet doctor Harold Tarnower. She went to his home intending to commit suicide, but things went awry and he was shot to death. In her suicide note she wrote, "I was a person, but no one knew it." I think that's a motto for a lot of us. I've had professional help and it has helped. But I also know it can be a temporary panacea and I have to guard against letting my "dark side" take control. Having attempted suicide in the past I refuse to judge anyone who feels so helpless and so alone that they see that as their last recourse.

2007-08-15 20:30:22 · answer #3 · answered by goldie 6 · 1 0

The society feels it has a lien over the lives of its members and therefore disapproves of anyone thinking of or attempting suicide. Suicide is however a decision entirely in the domain of the individual concerned and he/she can always choose to ignore or even rubbish what society view or mandate is.

I can not see any more in a case of suicide or contemplation of suicide. If the individual is confident of his decision, he/she would simply go ahead with it... those afflicted by self doubt are the ones who come here and ask for other people's opinion or perhaps approval.... others are almost always likely to disapprove of suicide since it is such an extreme step that unless you yourself are contemplating it, you would never think of it being the right or the done thing.

2007-08-15 20:28:30 · answer #4 · answered by small 7 · 2 0

I understand what you mean as far as others saying "oh you just have issues." I don't, however, agree with your last statement. What you call "harassment" I would call caring, or loving. To me suicide is a selfish way of removing oneself from an "unhappy" life.

Everyones life is a blessing, and to be able to breathe another day is a gift. God would never give anyone of us more than we can handle. These suicide attempts are being egged on by Satan himself. I am a strong and firm believer in my faith and I know that if one chooses to end their life prematurely, than there will be no walking through the Pearly Gates of Heaven. I also know that Satan will do as much as he is able to do to catch as many lost souls as possible.

The ones who do say they are unhappy with life don't necessarily need professional help or an institution but need to be loved and need to know that when life is at its worst the only place to go is up. Life can only improve.

I don't 100% understand much about suicide and what is going on in peoples lives that attempt or commit suicide, all I know is that life isn't a curse, it's a gift. Find what is bothering you and remove yourself from the situation with a solution other than suicide. Surround yourself with positive influence, and people who will uplift you and let you know that life is worth living. Believe me in the end suicide is not worth your eternity in hell.

2007-08-15 20:20:52 · answer #5 · answered by landerson_photography 1 · 0 3

Well for one, suicide is an easy way out for most People who cannot cope with their chaotic life. Secondly, People who choose the right to die, should have that right and that goes for the terminally ill patients. Who are we to cast judgment on People who want to end their life? If they choose to commit suicide, doesn't that already tell you that they are already dead inside of themselves?

Life may be a gift from God, as some may proclaim it to be. But, with that gift, comes death, no matter how we die. There is NO instructions given as to how to live our lives and/or how to end it. Some may say that the instructions are in the Bible, one just has to read it. Unfortunately, not everyone reads the Bible nor do some believe it.

Aside from the terminally ill Patients, as one would understand why he/she would choose it, One must understand those who are not terminally ill, as to, what is making him/her want to choose the easy way out. We cannot change the minds of others, but we can be a voice for them to hear.

2007-08-15 20:25:28 · answer #6 · answered by Smahteepanties 4 · 1 1

We can't just end our lives whenever we feel like it. Actually, we owe it to God to live. Once in my life, I also felt like making an end to it because everything was going wrong and I was in a big black hole. Luckily I didn't. My life changed for the better and today I'm so happy. I have somebody in my life who makes me very happy and who I believe needs me to be in his life, because he doesn't have anybody else who believes in him. If I made an end to my life, what would have become of him? Even though it does not seem like that at a certain point in time/life - every one of us has a purpose. Even the smallest thing can make a change. Little moments.

2007-08-15 20:57:02 · answer #7 · answered by Sophia 2 · 0 3

"Suicide is a very permanent solution to a temporary problem" I can't remember where I heard this but it has stuck with me I think anyone contemplating suicide would be wise to consider this.
That's where the professional help comes in, sometimes people need reminding that they have had wonderful times in their past and that they can have many more in their futures and that most problems and hardships are temporary, if they choose them to be.
I also think people need to be reminded that their lives and deaths have a direct impact on other peoples lives and while they may choose to end their's they are devastating their loved ones lives in the process.

2007-08-15 20:42:14 · answer #8 · answered by Kim S 1 · 0 3

Suicide is not a solution to end one's life. What are you for if you will end your precious life. I for one don't chastise people who are unhappy. They should rather be given full attention by the society because they are the outcasted people. Moreover, they should be given preferential attention by the government because they seek psychological or neurolgical attention. these people have problems that they could not cope what the normal people do. For them they have their own world. But i believe there are clinical or governmental institutions who sought help to these people who have suicidal tendencies. Dying is not the solution.

2007-08-15 20:18:39 · answer #9 · answered by Third P 6 · 1 2

It is sad to hear that someone would rather not exist than exist. I would understand if someone wanted to end their life if they had an incurable disease and dealing with pain and suffering and they were on their way out anyway, although not if life has just been difficult. Since life does have meaning and all the tragedies and suffering does have a purpose, I would suggest a person wanting to end their life find that purpose. And yes, it means finding God, finding your own personal path.

2007-08-15 20:22:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

I agree.
Perhaps it is society that has "some serious issues" and is in need of help. Then maybe so many people wouldn't feel so forlorn by all the struggling to exist, to fend for oneself and to be seen, heard and loved.

2007-08-15 22:18:40 · answer #11 · answered by Eggplant 4 · 0 2

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