Considering men abuse children so much, should gender studies include a study of their hatred of their kids?

Question

Fathers spend less time with their kids, but abuse them more often. Why might this be?

Figure 4 Perpetrators of physical abuse of children
The graph shows the nature of the relationship between the family member who perpetrates physical abuse and the child victim. The data show the percentage of perpetrators and are for substantiated cases of physical abuse in Canada in 1998. Only cases where the perpetrator was a relative are included. (These represent the great majority of all cases.)

Biological
father
41.3%

Biological
mother
38.9%

pg8, pdf document
'A LEAGUE TABLE OF CHILD MALTREATMENT DEATHS IN RICH NATIONS'
http://www.unicef-icdc.org/publications/pdf/repcard5e.pdf

The USA has a VERY high rate of child abuse, second only to Mexico (in the UNICEF study). I suggest it's because VIOLENCE in GENERAL is considered more acceptable in the USA: other countries are actively doing something about this and outlawed the use of corporal punishment, "Seven countries – Austria, Denmark,Finland,Germany,Iceland,
Norway and Sweden – currently have laws explicitly prohibiting the physical punishment of children (Figure 13)." at the time of the study.

"The countries with the lowest rates of child death from maltreatment also have very low rates of adult deaths from assault. Similarly,the three nations with exceptionally high levels of child deaths from
maltreatment – the United States,Mexico,and Portugal – also have exceptionally high adult death rates (Figure 6). Poverty and stress – along with drug and alcohol abuse – appear to be the factors most closely and consistently associated with child abuse."
and neglect.

Some of you have neglected to factor in the fact that fathers are more likely to spend time with young children than are mothers. This 'factoid' is of great significance in understanding 'the big picture'.

Brain Fart - mothers are MORE likely to spend time with young children than fathers (for obvious reasons, du-uh), ok?

And CrankyBullet: "Lucky for them no WOman in their right mind would have any with you."

Narcissistic troll, please refer to my earlier question
tonight:

‘Why are narcissistic trolls so emotional that they can't resist bypassing the 'block' function?’
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApC.Ivtc3StDhfO10aMoW4Tty6IX?qid=20070815192406AAMAl2a

Answer 1

My educational background includes a significant number of courses in this area, and one of the conclusions about abuse is that societies considered "macho" tolerate violence to a much greater degree in all areas--abuse of women, children, other men. It is simply part of culture. The US, as a pseudo-macho culture does have a high rate of child abuse, the causes of which are often poverty and alcoholism/drug abuse, and social powerlessness. The lower the income level, the higher the liklihood of abuse. Places such as France or Denmark have relatively low levels of child abuse because those societies have universal daycare and healthcare as well as other social programs which ease the stress on parents. An issue of importance is the type of abuse being perpetrated--emotional/psychological abuse is hard to identify until later in life, whereas physical abuse is identifiable for those willing to look. Having worked with children in Canada, I am obligated to report any incidence of suspected abuse, and I believe such laws should exist everywhere.
Personally, I've never been hit by my parents, and I have never hit my child. There is absolutely no need to ever hit anyone, particularly a child, and if one does that, it says more about their lack of control than about anything the child does. Hence, child abuse--the root is a sense of powerlessness, lack of self-control, and, for some, a desire to exert power and authority over someone more vulnerable. These types of people are also more likely to abuse animals. Women have traditionally been the ones who are primary caregivers, and things such as Munchausen syndrome and emotional/psychological abuse are more related to women than to men. Physical abuse is not the exclusive domain of men, although they've often been put in the role of disciplinarian. I'm not sure of the stats, but it would make sense to say that both women and men can be and are abusive toward their children, and I, personally, know more cases of females abusing their children than men doing the same. Also not to be neglected is the "wimp" parent who sits idly by while the child is being abused--a form of abuse in itself. I think those people are the most damaging to a person's psyche than anyone else.

Answer 2

You just hit a nerve, i am a loving father and also a victim of child abuse on a few levels i will not go into any further.

child abuse is a serous mater and it is at times different in many ways from one case to another. i have also seen a women abuse her child, and yes it was a boy and she took it over the top far as im concerned. it is a crime and that is a fact so to sit here and try to make it a gender specific crime is BS , it is flat out a crime and no mater what sex the victim is or the abuser is it needs to be delt with on the same level.

Answer 3

My "MOTHER" was the child abuser in My family. The statistics You quote do not seem to cover the "Blame the Father/Man" phenomenon, nor the fact that like, "Maternal Incest", society does not pursue Women of a violent nature the same way that it does Men. I think that most people would be shocked if They saw the real figures. Ask any Nurse about the way assaults against children by Mothers/Females tend to get covered up.

Answer 4

This question (?) is a perfect example of the lies that feminists use to improve their status while at the same time attempting to bring men down below their level in the eyes of the ignorant. For the informed, this becomes another example of feminists shooting themselves in the foot.

In the United States, the most likely perpetrator of violence against children is the mother.
For FFY 2005, 57.8 percent of the perpetrators were women and 42.2 percent were men.
Nearly 80 percent (79.4%) of perpetrators were parents.
Of the parents who were perpetrators, more than 90 percent (90.5%) were biological parents, 4.3 percent were stepparents, and 0.7 percent were adoptive parents. Other relatives accounted for an additional 6.8 percent.

Regardless who spends more time with children, the fact is that women, specifically mothers, aunts and grandmothers are the most likely to abuse a child. In the case of neglect, the percentage is overwhelmingly that of mothers. This is nothing more than an excuse to continue the status quo, which is to insure children are placed in the most dangerous situation possible: with their mothers and her ‘husband of the week’.

Nearly 84 percent (83.4%) of victims were abused by a parent acting alone or with another person. Approximately, forty percent (40.4%) of child victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 18.3 percent were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; and 17.3 percent were abused by both parents. Victims abused by nonparental perpetrators accounted for 10.7 percent. A nonparental perpetrator is defined as a caregiver who is not a parent and can include foster parent, child daycare staff, unmarried partner of parent, legal guardian, and residential facility staff.

Answer 5

You nasty woman. Child abuse is a very serious matter and should be dealt with according to fact and not your ridiculous agenda.

Incase you were unaware one of the primary risk factors for someone to either become a victim or perpetrator of domestic violence in their adult relationships is being abused as a child.

If you truly cared about these children and women that your movement is supposedly there to protect, you would want this to be addressed based on what will actually fix it.

I'll thank you to keep your personal politics out of serious matters such as this.

Answer 6

Aaaaaaaaagh.

A friend of mine did her PhD on the use of statistics in sociology and their irrelevance.

You can pretty much make statistics say anything you want them to, the UK unemployment figures are testament to that.

More importantly, what about cases that go unreported?
A mother will report abuse by their child's father, but would a father even know their child was being abused if he did not live with the child?

This is like saying the abused go on to be abusers. How do they know? What about those children who were abused (and it went unreported) but went on to have families and not abuse their children? Unless you're prepared to interview every single citizen with children, you can't possibly generalise and wave a few biased figures around as your proof.

Statistics are nonsense.

Answer 7

Hmm. Yes, what's most interesting is the amount of time spent with the kids by each parent. Like I've said earlier, of course the parent who raises the kids is probably going to be the one to administer discipline. I was disciplined by my stay-at-home mom - rarely by my dad, who worked. It's true that "discipline" easily and unfortunately turns into a frustration vent.

So there's something a bit more perverse about ... not really spending time with your child or seeing or talking with or learning with your child during the day, but still wanting to come home from your job and (probably get drunk) and abuse the child. It's quite different when one takes into consideration *who is constantly with* and who is raising - feeding, cleaning, teaching, disciplining - the child.

Answer 8

Professor Longhair is right. Basing the research on "substantiated" abuse, while it has the advantage of more certainty regarding the cases that it considers, omits the cases that are not brought to the attention of the authorities.
___The other research that women abuse kids more often has credibility. They also initiate violent incidents with men more often than the other way around, and they have more opportunity to whack their kids with no witnesses present.
___Furthermore, none of this considers emotional abuse. In literature on bullying, it's characteristic of girls to use emotional abuse. But the literature restricts itself to the emotional abuse girls do to girls, for obvious reasons of academic politics. The entire gender discourse pretty much omits or forcefully excludes and consideration of the emotional abuse that women commit on men and children.

Answer 9

Gender studies DO include this! In Marriage, Family & Child Therapy, Psychologist, and Physician Continuing Education classes, we learn lots about domestic violence. Most domestic violence is perpetrated by men on their wives & children, for a variety of reasons. We learn how to identify domestic violence, to report it properly to the authorities, and to do therapy with the families.

Answer 10

Funny Crone, I tried to go to the source for that data, a single study performed on 7,000 cases in Canada by the Public Health Agency of Canada and all I found was this:

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/cissr-ecirc/index.html

Across all categories of maltreatment, biological mothers were identified as the alleged perpetrator most often (60% of substantiated cases), followed by biological fathers (41%).

The source I posted previously also deals with a far larger sample than your single Canadian study.

Still, your attempt to excuse women's misopedia is noted, you must really hate children, crone. Lucky for them no man in their right mind would have any with you.