Did Clinton KICK the CAN of global Islamo-fascism down the road for eight years for BUSH to solve?

Question

"What haunted me more than anything else was that [President Clinton] refused to make a decision. Human lives were at stake – the lives of American service members and the lives of our allies who opposed Saddam at our behest and were now under attack. At a time when America’s honor and grander principles were being challenged and the world was watching our every move… the president was watching golf. ...I approached the president and said, “Sir, our aircraft are ready, bombs loaded, and waiting for your command…His reply destroyed my faith in him as commander-in-chief and convinced me that the greatest security risk to the United States was none other than…the president himself."


— Lt. Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, USAF (Ret.), author of “Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America’s National Security,” recalling his three different attempts to pull Clinton away from watching the Presidents’ Cup long enough to give the go-ahead to bomb Iraq)

While Clinton played with the INTERN;

-- The 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed 6 and injured 1,000
-- The 1993 Mogadishu firefight that killed 18 U.S. soldiers
-- The 1995 Saudi Arabia car bomb that killed 5 U.S. military personnel
-- The 1996 Khobal Towers bombing that killed 19 U.S. soldiers, wounding 515
-- The 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 citizens, 12 Americans and injured 5,000
-- The 2000 USS Cole attack in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors, wounding 39

In all – including Clinton’s culpability in opening the door to Sept. 11, 2001 when he turned down three offers to have Osama bin Laden arrested as well as several other deliberate national security bungles!

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Answer 1

Absolutely spot-on! You're going to receive a lot of liberal delusionist drive-by wrath for asking this, but you are right in doing so. America burned while Clinton fiddled and now its up to us to deal with the aftermath of his malfeasance. As you continue to weather the slings and arrows of outraged liberalism, know that the armor of truth will deflect and blunt the sting of their irrational, self-serving lies.

Answer 2

Bill Clinton is the ultimate politician. Every move he made was motivated by how it would affect his political image.
No where is that more evident then in his role as commander in chief. He guided the military toward engaging in only what he hoped would be blood-less action.
Firing more cruise missles into Iraq during wag-the-dog than the military had conventional war heads for was one example.
He said he was enforcing the 'no-fly' zone and failed to mention that Saddam lost everything with a fixed wing that would fly in the first Gulf war. The Navy and Air force had to retask the nukes to keep up.
Interevneing in the Balkans is another. He conducted that mission from 35,000 feet attacking a set of nations that together didn't amount to the population of Brooklyn NY. He just didn't have the resources to do it on the ground after having cut the military by 50% to create a faux budget surplus that only lasted one year, 1996.
Incredibly, no one has been able to define the American interests at stake in that region. I'm still waiting.

He was bringing food to Somalia. As it turns out, they did not need food. There was plenty of food, the war lords were using it as currency so all he did was strengthen their position with more of it. When he decided to respond to that after the bulb lit up, he sent in a Jimmy Carteresque force and similarly got his butt kicked. His answer was capitulation.

The children that Clinton traumatized in Iraq and the Muslims he 'saved' in the Balkans, we call 'foreign backed insurgents' today and Somalia is a hornet's nest of Al Queda.
Thanks Bill.

Answer 3

Clinton merely continued a long legacy of failed Mid-East policy. Reagan bailed out of Beirut, showing the extremists that the U.S. would pull out after taking casualties. Clinton simply did the same thing in Somalia. The elder Bush (and the UN leadership) failed to remove Saddam from Iraq, then left the Shiites to twist in the wind. The various sanctions against Iraq actually strengthened Saddam's position, much like the Versailles Treaty actually helped Hitler achieve power. Of course, we could also talk about how the 1998 Clinton bombings occured within two days of Clinton's impeachment vote...

Answer 4

am I protecting appraised as to the reality ? sure, relating to the conflict on terror the conservatives have failed their united states of america. that they had years to get the activity accomplished, yet as a substitute they gave us the 'ol bait and turn. we are the worlds purely super capacity, yet bush could no longer kill zawahri or bin encumbered this may be the main extreme conflict this united states of america has ever fought and what have we've been given to teach for 6 years of battling, extra advantageous than 500 billion spent and over 3,000 lives lost on our side ? very almost no longer something ! we are nevertheless only getting started, and not an extremely solid initiate the two i think of it is super that we are going to have a IslamoFascism understanding week. it is approximately time maximum folk of individuals held bush responsible for his huge failure.

Answer 5

the history channel presented the documentary 'targeted' which began with the creation of the 'Muslim Brotherhood' and how it evolved into the present al-quiad organization with the rise of Usama Bin Ladin. it was a factual account without bias, just the historical facts.

i took 7 pages of notes as i wanted to learn why these people organized and why they hate non-Muslim so much and i was amazed at how specific they were in telling us their plans to do us great harm and how 'we' refused to give them any credibility. they have been committing acts of war and aggression for decades now and prior to 9/11 they were considered a 'law enforcement' problem and lawyers were consulted on how to best handle or not to handle these people.

we are in a clash of civilizations here and this show tells why and outlines their goals.

if we refuse to listen now, we do so at our own peril.

everyone should make it a point to see this presentation and i think all will agree the history channel is unbiased and factual. please see the presentation and educate yourselves.

"The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete." by Wafta Sultan

Answer 6

While I'd love to hang all the blame on Clinton he only shares partial culpability. The Muslims/Islamists have been a genuine problem since 1979 (Jimmy Carter was president) and every administration since then has failed to send the proper (Don't mess with the USA) message.

Answer 7

The USA is not run exclusively by the President, Congress, Court System etc. rather authority is delegated to the Pentagon, CIA, and a host of specialized agencies to carry out the will of the President as authorized by Congress.

The President and Congressmen have a perfect right to take a vacation from their duties, be it with their family, or with a consenting Intern or a Page, provided that person is an adult. The only trouble Clinton had with the Intern was lying under oath about it.

There were multiple instances where Clinton authorized action against what he perceived as our enemies, guided by what he thought was good intelligence, and he got seriously criticised by Congress and others for doing so.

The 9/11 commission looked into all kinds of charges and counter charges. The reality was that no one administration or congress was responsible for the mess we now found ourselves in. It was a collective failure.

I suggest you read their report, before relying on anyone else views.

I agree with 2nd post above. This nation expends entirely too much energy arguing over history that is too late to fix, and not enough energy figuring out how to fix the present day messes.

For example, according to MSNBC the USA has depleted its strategic military reserves into Iraq, and now has an absolute need to bring back the draft. Both republicans and democrats know that this is hightly unpopular, and if they push it before 2008 Presidential election, it could cost them that election, so the plan is to have the draft implemented right after that election ... our leaders are gambling that between now and then, nothing really serious happen like
* China invade Taiwan ... US have to say "too bad, all our troops in Iraq, we cannot do a thing about it"
* Islamic Terrorists set off a nuke to cause bigger Tsunami & kill hundreds of thousands of people ... US say same as above

Worst scenario I can think of ... Islamic Terrorists seize nuclear power plant in some Middle East nation, cause melt down ... the super hot melts its way down to the oil not yet out of ground, and it all catch on fire, burn itself out

These scenarios, and many others can happen, because so much of America is tied up argueing over what was done years ago, and spending such little resource planning ahead to deal with today's and tomorrow's threats.

Answer 8

How was Saddam in any part of a 'can' of Islamo-fascism? A non-secular leader is the can of Islamo-fascism..you need to read up on the subject a bit more and not read biased books that Fox News gives excellent reviews of.

So you excerpt from one book that is clearly biased. A lt. Colonel trying to sway Clinton to goto to war is laughable. A lower ranked army officer. Pfft.

Answer 9

Only because he and the government had its hands completely tied for nearly two years with the Paula Jones/Monica Lewinsky/lets get that bastard by any means necessary debacle! Meanwhile while he was being asked questions about his private sex life by Trent Lott Osama Bin Laden was planning and already executing the 911 plot.
Thank you very much (I'm a Republican so don't even try that "lib" BS on me.)

Answer 10

Does it matter? It's more than apparent that both sides are well equipped with anecdotal evidence about who is the greater evil . . . Why do we continue to waste time in the mud? It seems many Americans are much more comfortable behaving like pigs . . .