2007-08-14 10:22:41 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
First the way the statement is posed it makes it seem that it is somehow wrong to admit defeat (though this is open to interpretation) so I feel somewhat bated in responding. Secondly there is some element of paradox in the typical Eastern concept of rebirth on the one hand it is optimistic as all or nearly all traditions assert that we will all one day reach the goal of non-re-birth and further that the wise will wish this. On the other hand we have by being reborn been defeated in that we have not yet reached that goal in our previous incarnations, but we can not really be defeated when in the end we will dwell in bliss or be reabsorbed into the ocean of Nirvana or gain Heaven or whatever.. The question is then is it really a defeat, which implies that a judgment needs to made or could be made when perhaps no judgment on the subject is proper or real. It is simply a fact we are born we leave a body, we take up a new one and eventually the Atman realizes the state of perfection that is natural to it and is no longer subject to rebirth. Karma is neutral in this regard not judgmental but objective, there is no good or bad only truth or illusion. What seems like defeat is really just illusion as is victory as is good as is evil.
Or does the statement beg the question, is a belief in rebirth the result of a defeatist attitude or an attitude that arises from an unhappy state of being, one that is dissatisfied with its current condition has no hope and therefore looks foreword to the next round of rebirth. Again this seems to find its source in illusion or a failure to see clearly our truest selves, and the nature of our journey and our final resolution.
I guess I am really unable to agree or disagree with the statement in any manner that I would look foreword to defending. My instincts tell me however that I disagree or at least wish to disagree.
2007-08-14 11:17:40 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
(A) Believing in rebirth is the same as admitting defeat.
(B) Repainting your car is the same as eating an orange.
One makes about as much sense as the other.
2007-08-14 12:37:35 · answer #2 · answered by Grey Raven 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do not agree with this accusation.
Who ever wrote this should of used the word ACCEPTING in place of "Believing in" to make his/her point clearer.
Who ever wrote this does not believe in reincarnation. The writer sees rebirth as a foolish proclamation.
Normally men have a tendency to be more obnoxious and closed minded then women, so a guy wrote this.
Some rebirth believers have committed suicide, and I think this is what he was trying to get at.
2007-08-14 10:40:48 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Defeat in the struggle with what. Rebirth is not a guarantee for anything except reentry into life. What that life is to be is not in your power to determine.
The Will is positive, the Judgment is negative.
2007-08-14 14:39:34 · answer #4 · answered by Psyengine 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i don't know. I mean, i think i partly agree with it, because if you believe in rebirth you think you've got a second chance in life and you'd think that you can do every thing right the second time around rather than having your victories in your first life...
2007-08-14 11:10:46 · answer #5 · answered by ashleybebeh 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
No...it does not admit defeat.
~ Eric Putkonen
2007-08-14 11:11:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It makes no sense... complete post hoc fallacy! It is like saying the start of a new school year is sign that you failed the last one...
2007-08-14 11:25:40 · answer #7 · answered by ikiraf 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
one shoud not be defined by theyre religious beliefs. so no that person would not be addmiting defeat.
2007-08-14 10:30:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
no. Because it means you'll always have another chance.
2007-08-14 10:33:10 · answer #9 · answered by lufiabuu 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋