Global warming? Someone made a BOOBOO?

Question

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/246027
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070814/NATION02/108140063

Answer 1

You had better be careful. If you keep this up, you might be labeled a heretic by those of the Global Warming faith.

Edit: LOL. Notice the guy above me attacking the source, instead of commenting on the FACT that NASA has recently changed the its stand on which years were the hottest.

You won't see this covered much in the mainstream media (gee I wonder why), but maybe he will accept it if you can find a source from moveon.org.

Answer 2

Yes, someone made a mathmatical error. Does this mean there is no global climate change and humans are not a factor in the changes? No. Here's what the article *really* said regarding the error:

-- NASA officials have dismissed the changes as trivial. Even the Canadian who spotted the original flaw says the revisions are "not necessarily material to climate policy."
-- But the revisions have been seized on by conservative Americans, including firebrand radio host Rush Limbaugh, as evidence that climate change science is unsound.

-- Said Limbaugh last Thursday: "What do we have here? We have proof of man-made global warming. The man-made global warming is inside NASA ... is in the scientific community with false data."
-- However Stephen McIntyre, who set off the uproar, described his finding as a "a micro-change. But it was kind of fun."
*** Rush says "proof" huh? Well, if one is determined to keep their head in the sand, every little grain counts. Huh?

As for the second article, I took my own liberties with data:
"The Architect of the Capitol estimates that by having installed energy-efficient comfort-control systems and lighting, including occupancy sensors that automatically turn off lights when they are not needed, they are saving American taxpayers more than $2.2 million per year."

Hmmm... I wonder how much would have been saved over the years had Reagan not removed the solar panels that Carter had installed on the White House roof?
http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/newsreleases/2007/07-18.pdf
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/03/solar.html

Answer 3

How does someone talking about global warming in the 20's disprove anything? actually it strengthens the argument since scientists believe that our influence on global warming started with the industrial revolutions of the 1800's. Are there things that effect our environment more than ourselves? of course there are! If a super volcano went up today it could throw us into 5-10 years of the coldest conditions of the last 100 years!... but that DOESN'T mean we aren't contributing. In my opinion we should take care of our part.. and let mother nature regulate itself like it always has on the rest

Answer 4

*sigh*

I'm really getting sick of the over-reaction and MELODRAMA being induced by the whole

...*gasp!*

"temperatures of 1935!" NON-issue.


Hey. Here's a thought:

I double-dog DARE you to do a little research into the whole "dust bowl" phenomenon. Do you know what it was? Do you know what caused it? Do you know what would be the end result of plowing up millions upon millions of prairie grass to raise wheat?

That's right. MAN CAUSED IT.

And an allegedly "record temp" 70 years ago does not in any way detract from the empirical data collected which we have access to right now:

*The oceans are warming. That is a fact.
*There is MORE ocean/water due to icesheets/polar ice caps melting. That is a fact.
*Oceans (water) hold heat. That is a fact.
*Temps are rising. That is a fact.
*We are dumping HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONS of CO2 into the atmosphere. That is a fact.
*CO2 absorbs heat. That is a fact.


It is really quite beyond me that there are actually people who seem to want to deny facts simply because of who it is presenting the facts.

Incomprehensible.

Answer 5

Wow. I knew the Washington Times was a bad paper, but you'd think they would fact check their information.

Average global temperature measurements:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

1934 was not even a warm year. See this question for an explanation as to why your right-wing sources are incorrect:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApKvie5J_.B1pnQlT7eTH0fsy6IX?qid=20070810115452AAYt0LI

Answer 6

Why no attack on the carbon emmissions data that shows CO2 has spiked since the 50s?


Is there a problem with the photographs of the hole over the ozone?

I see we are attacking a mathametical error, not global warming itself.

Answer 7

Yep, even NASA is revising their figures on GW.

Is Climate change real? Of course, but the climate has always undergone change and will continue to do so.

Should humans be better custodians of the planet? Yes, but not at the cost of ruining the economy of every country.

Answer 8

Yep, but the cult will never believe it. :)

For your own amusement, watch this when you have time. It takes about an hour and a half but is well worth it. Scientists who are speaking out and proving that it's a swindle!

Answer 9

The Washington Time? They lean further to the right than Hitler did!!!! LOL

Answer 10

and this is your proof of its nonexistence?
MEANINGLESS. GLOBAL WARMING EXISTS.
ASK SCIENTISTS WHO ARE 100000 TIMES MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU.