Do you really care that Bush supposedly tapped the phone lines?

Question

I'd rather he do it than have to wait to get permission

Answer 1

If Bush tapped phone lines, then he had very good reason too. People can say whatever they want, Bush is a good man and he's just being cautious. I wouldn't have wanted that man's job or headaches since right before 9-11. I give him lots of credit, I couldn't have done better than he has! Many others couldn't either but they're not as willing to admit to it as I am. Mistakes? Sure, he's made some, so have I!

Sometimes it takes to long for a warrant, sometimes it tips off people who should be caught, I don't want to ever see another 9-ll, and if it means "Secret" services to stop mass murder, then be it. Him breaking a little law to protect maybe the whole country? It's all paperwork anyway.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

I don't understand why so many people on this site--supposedly patriotic Americans--are willing to let ANYONE strip us of our constitutional freedoms. Aren't these the very freedoms our soldiers are fighting for? Aren't these the freedoms that gun owners say they want to defend?

We are protected under the Constitution from unwarranted search and seizure. That means the government has to get permission from a court to invade our privacy. They have to have a REASON. Saying "Oh well, I haven't done anything wrong, so why do I care?" just shows that you are ignorant and/or have not engaged in long-range thinking. We have to protect our constitution no matter what, and if we relax our vigilance, our freedoms will be slowly and surely stripped away and one day you will wake up and have no freedoms.

Wake up, people! The requirements of the FISA court are very reasonable, and they even allow for the government to get permission AFTER THE FACT. There is no reason not to adhere to these laws.

[Edited to add polling results below]

By a 73%-22% margin, Americans overwhelmingly oppose George Bush's efforts to wiretap Americans' phone calls and emails without a search warrant, according to a telephone poll of 1,006 adults conducted by ICR.

Wiretapping: All Dem Ind Rep
Approve 22% 11% 17% 42%
-strongly 10% 3% 8% 23%
-somewhat 12% 8% 9% 19%
Disapprove 73% 87% 80% 51%
-somewhat 12% 10% 14% 15%
-strongly 60% 77% 66% 36%

This is the first national poll since September 2006 asking Americans about warrantless wiretapping of Americans, which has been ignored by corporate media polls despite headline coverage.

Answer 4

You'd better care. The Bush Junta will be out of business soon enough, but once such things as secret phone tapping, warrantless searches and opening private mail is established a future government could easily use this to really screw the national pooch. That's why we have a 4th Amendment to the US Constitution....because all governments if not restricted by 'powers granted' will become out of control thugocracies. In point of fact, the government can get a warrant 72 hours after the fact.....the point here is to establish a paper trail. Without this safeguard, a government could plant 'evidence' on a political troublemaker and that person could vanish into some gulog never to be seen again. Let's not go there...we're Americans with a constitution..a constitution that 'our' government officials take an oath to 'protect and defend'....not ignore!

Answer 5

First of all, there is nothing "supposed" about it. He did so. His argument in fact has been that he hasn't needed permission. To suggest otherwise is a sham.

Second, I do care. Traditional conservatives care, too. Privacy issues are important and significant. How can it be that social conservatives would be infuriated that the ATF had a legitimate warrant to search David Koresh's compound and be completely blithe about warrantless spying upon American citizens? There seems to be a basic inconsistency.

Third, there are both legal and constitutional controls on doing such things. The desire of the executive branch to circumvent these controls represents a fundamental attack upon the very nature of American society.

Finally, even "the ends justify the means" argument has little bearing here. These wire taps have not resulted in substantive and widespread prosecutions of suspected terrorists. Moreover, we don't really know whether they have even produced any useful intelligence, since the President has also ignored any sort of Congressional oversight.

So by almost any measure, I care. You might want to consider caring, too.

Cheers.

Answer 6

uh, yes, I do care. Did you fail 5th grade? Go read up on the 4th amendment, and then come back.

Do you really think that the 2 day wait will result in another 9-11? Or the fact that they are allowed to tap on the spot, and then get court approval within x amount of days.

If you don't care if your personal freedoms are compromised, I highly suggest that you live in one of three or four countries that share your beliefs:

1. The former Soviet Republic.
2. China.
3. North Korea.
4. Iran.

hmmm....see any "Axis of Evil-doers" on that list?

How about this:

5. The United States of America, under the regime of GWB.

Answer 7

I doubt George Bush has ever tapped a telephone line, however the FBI and CIA have been doing it because telephone lines have existed. no longer something new there. additionally, the US government is barely between the various entities that faucets into telephones. Your telephone calls struggle by way of satellite tv for pc and/or microwave antennas, which would be intercepted by way of anybody. it is likewise extremely ordinary for somebody to place a actual faucet on your telephone line outdoors your residing house. do no longer communicate approximately something substantial on the telephone, and you should be effective. :)

Answer 8

Tapping phone lines.... That's how a slide towards dictatorship begins. Everything begin with the first step.


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Answer 9

damn right I have a problem with it. The Constitution stands in the way of it. This is NOT a police state. Or at least it shouldn't be. I am not a criminal either, and that is precisely why my phone line should NOT be tapped.

Answer 10

I have a problem with the secrecy, its almost as though "no crime was found...but, were gonna' hold on to these transcripts for awhile"
And when they are as evasive as they have been it just reeks of impropriety, and you only get that when someone or an organization knows they are doing wrong.